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9. August 2012, 22:09:03
Iamon lyme 
Obsession with money is a narcissistic disorder.

9. August 2012, 22:12:20
The Col 
Subject: Re: narcissistic disorder
Iamon lyme: A subject you have firsthand knowledge ?

9. August 2012, 22:57:02
Iamon lyme 
Subject: Re: narcissistic disorder
The Col: I thought that might get a response... the key to successful fishing is in using the right bait.

9. August 2012, 23:21:07
The Col 
Subject: Re: narcissistic disorder
Iamon lyme: You are a master baitor

9. August 2012, 23:31:29
Iamon lyme 
Subject: Re: narcissistic disorder
The Col: I was actually expecting to catch a prize (V) with that bait. You don't appear to be obsessed with other people's money, but hey, what do I know...

Cheers. Here's looking at you.

9. August 2012, 23:44:18
The Col 
Subject: Re: narcissistic disorder
Modified by The Col (9. August 2012, 23:51:55)
Iamon lyme: I don't consider wanting fair taxation to be an obsession with other peoples money.It may be the the proper spin if the candidate you support has loads of money offshore, and would rather take a battering rather than disclosure.Both parties turn a blind eye to the weaknesses of their candidates though, politics have become far too predictable, and the lack of any bi partisan work on behalf of the public is killing the USA. Mitch McConnell even went as far as to suggest being non cooperative was the intent of the Republican senate, that does nothing but hurt the country, power has become more importent than the health of the nation, he should be ashamed

10. August 2012, 01:13:39
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: narcissistic disorder
The Col: 50% pay zero taxes. The to 10% pay 70%.

10. August 2012, 01:38:17
rod03801 
Subject: Re: narcissistic disorder
Modified by rod03801 (10. August 2012, 01:38:45)
The Col: But it seems that his money being "off shore" is not illegal. Perhaps if the greedy federal government were out of people's pockets, and stopped with lib regulations on everything, people wouldn't need to do that with their money, and COULD keep more of it here.

He has done nothing wrong. He has done what he could do to maximize his success.. GEE how AWFUL.

Honestly, he isn't MY first choice, for sure. Not conservative enough for me. But 4 more years of this ... well, I can't say any of the words on this board that I usually use for this useless president... would destroy this country.

Heck, I'd even vote for you over Obama. Anything to get that jerk out.

10. August 2012, 01:57:44
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: narcissistic disorder
rod03801:

10. August 2012, 09:57:21
Mort 
Subject: Re: But it seems that his money being "off shore" is not illegal.
rod03801: Not even immoral?

"Perhaps if the greedy federal government were out of people's pockets, and stopped with lib regulations on everything, people wouldn't need to do that with their money, and COULD keep more of it here. "

Honestly, that is a really naive statement. Using Tax havens (and that is what they are) is just a way to avoid tax and hide dodgy money.

You'd trust a President who can't be honest over his own finances... Shame on you!!

10. August 2012, 17:50:59
The Col 
Subject: Re: But it seems that his money being "off shore" is not illegal.
(V): Going to the pub every night till close is legal , but wouldn't score high points for a presidential candidate.Of course certain tax havens are legal , but the optics are bad for Romney in this one.He apparently disclosed over a decade of returns to McCain when he was being considered for the VP job last election, I suppose transparency doesn't extend to the electorate.

10. August 2012, 18:52:36
Mort 
Subject: Re: But it seems that his money being "off shore" is not illegal.
The Col: Legal.... I wouldn't mind the rich using them so much is the taxation levels were as they were before Raygun was told to cut them. But they are not.

As for Romney not being transparent... He'd be screwed if he acted like this in the UK. His election chance would be zero... Even the BNP (probably the most hated party in the UK) would get more votes.

10. August 2012, 21:14:57
The Col 
Subject: Re: But it seems that his money being "off shore" is not illegal.
(V): re : He'd be screwed if he acted like this in the UK

Funny you should say that.I was speaking with someone yesterday, and we both agreed Romney would never get away with his act in a Canadian election.Our politics lacks the flash of a US election, but the press does grill them on boring substance issues.That's not to say we end up electing better leaders

10. August 2012, 21:51:07
Mort 
Subject: Re: That's not to say we end up electing better leaders
The Col: It helps to weed out the worst of them.

... AS to the "flash".. It is reported that this "flash" is costing about 6 billion dollars, UK parties would take over 120 elections to spend that much.

Couldn't they all just agree not to advertise so much and give the money to community projects? It strikes me, to be a waste of money.

10. August 2012, 22:01:41
The Col 
Subject: Re: That's not to say we end up electing better leaders
(V): I had the idea that for every 10 dollars spent on advertising, 1 dollar should go towards the national debt every election.

10. August 2012, 22:25:20
Mort 
Subject: Re: That's not to say we end up electing better leaders
The Col: Tithing.. The Christians should be all for it!!

11. August 2012, 00:12:29
The Col 
Subject: Re: That's not to say we end up electing better leaders
(V): Not really the same, people go to church willingly in most cases.There is so much money spent on political advertising , an agreed upon donation towards the national debt would at least provide something to show for it.

11. August 2012, 12:34:19
Mort 
Subject: Re: That's not to say we end up electing better leaders
The Col: No, I agree.. but it makes it easier to sell such an idea, rather than it been said it's yet another government intrusion!!

10. August 2012, 07:53:41
Iamon lyme 
Subject: Re: narcissistic disorder
The Col: "I don't consider wanting fair taxation to be an obsession with other peoples money."

Of course you are obsessed with other people's money, because if you weren't you wouldn't want the rich to pay their fair share.

As it is the wealthiest people pay more than their fair share, so are you suggesting they should pay less?

If there was fair taxation, you would be paying the same rate as someone with more money than you. And you would pay the same rate as anyone who makes less money than you.

Everyone knows what it means to be fair, so be honest and tell us exactly what you mean by "fair".

10. August 2012, 08:40:40
Iamon lyme 
Subject: Re: narcissistic disorder
The Col: "...power has become more importent than the health of the nation"

You have no idea what you are talking about. This is what happens if you only repeat what you've heard over and over and over again.

The newly passed health care law is simply a bid for more power, it has absolutely nothing to do with improving health care. Tort reform that would put a cap on how much doctors and hospitals can be sued would have taken a very good health care system and made it better. Even the legislators who pushed for nationalizing health care know this. If they didn't know this, then I've been giving them a lot more credit for having brains than I should have.

One thing is for certain, the main goal of nationalizing health care is for the government to have even more control over an individuals life than they already have... they crossed constitutional lines a long time ago, and have continued to grab for more and more power since then. Do you really believe that this ongoing grab for power is supposed to be in everyones best interest?

10. August 2012, 01:14:22
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: narcissistic disorder
The Col: Haha I'm rubbin off on ya

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