(V): It's a fundamental difference. I repeat, these "pouting republican members" were VOTED in with the expectation that they would do this. If mine gives in, she won't be getting my vote next time.

This "controlled change" as you call it, WILL not DO ANY good. There has to be a SEVERE cut in the way our government keeps growing.

I don't expect you to agree. It's not unusual.

rod03801: They were voted in to mess your country up. Well, in that case they are doing a fine job. Is your government really growing.. or the costs the likes of DoD got out of control.

...How long is it going to be until the cost of the bogus war in Iraq gonna be paid off?

I don't expect you to like this... that ain't unusual either. But it is a fact.

(V): I completely disagree. Thankfully you don't have a vote here.

rod03801: Oh, please... everyone who is anyone (or anyone who is everyone) knows that government is not affected or ruled by the same economic principles the rest of us have to deal with. Governement is a magical entity that can spend more than it takes in because, uh, because they are the ones in charge... yeah, that's why. And it's only by sucking up to the ones in charge that any of us can hope for change in our fortunes... like the alternative energy companies, who knew their government funded ventures would eventually fold before too long. Why else would some of them receive parts for manufacture that would go directly into the dumpsters? Did they expect the random forces of magical evolution could take parts intended for human assembly and they would self assemble (by themselves) in those dumpters? And on top of that it should be noted... Uh oh, wait a sec... I'm starting to sound like a conservative again. No wonder I could never make it as a liberal, because as V has already noted (if he can remember back that far) I tend to think too much. Too much thinking leads to too many thoughts, and too many thoughts lead to too many other thoughts... and so on and so forth. After a while too many thoughts can crowd out memories of wild college parties and... Actually, I'd rather forget about all that.


Anywho, never expect a liberal to explain how deficit spending (or anything for that matter) is able to work. You'll almost always get an explanation that has nothing to do with it. For instance, paying off a war or two is a ridiculous argument, because those wars didn't put us into hock for the extra trillions of dollars we will soon be accountable for... since when has any war the US has fought cost more than the currently upcoming taxation that will be levied to pay for excessive spending on non essentials? And they are able to do this (as if by magic) by simply redefining what the word "essential" means.


I haven't spouted off for a few weeks, so I wanted to do something to help usher in the new year. heh heh heh heh heh heh...

By the way, if the world can end just because a Mayan 'calander' reaches the end of its cycle (the end of a very long cycle), then why doesn't the world come to an end every year when our calanders run out?

rod03801: Nope I have a vote here. Where spending cuts and some tax rises have reduced the UK's deficit. Shameful to you maybe.. but it is working.