I read the following:
Please don't forget that you cannot close the tournament for sign-ups before the date and time specified at the Last term to sign up field passes. After this action is performed, all tournaments with less than defined minimum number of players will be deleted.

Does this mean if a tournament has a minimum of 4 people, only 3 sign up, then the tournament is deleted? The statement "After this action is performed, all tournaments with less than defined minimum number of players will be
deleted." leads me to believe all tournaments with a minimum amount of players will be deleted? A more clear explanation of the statements would helpl

Thanks

Una

One slot left for the tournament. Here is the addy where you can sign:
http://www.brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=811&u=1&trnst=0

If you click to close a tournament, it has to have at least the minimum number of people signed up or the tournament will be deleted. (So if the minimum is set to 4, at least 4 need to be signed up)

What makes it tricky is if a pawn or Knight sign up and they don't have enough room, then they are "kicked" out of the tournament which might send the total number back below the minimum number - meaning the tournament will not start.

I hope this helps!

BBW (BIG BAD WOLF)

So what do you do if the tourney doesn't start because of someone not qualifying? Can you just get another player, or do you have to start over with a new tournament?

You have to start over unfortunately.

he,he,he kind of figured so

Una

It would just be a good idea to not start the tourney until you have either at least 4 rooks signed up, or more than 4 other players - the more the safer you are! :-)

(or, if you wanted to, you could check all the pawn and knight profiles to see how many games they had, and see which ones will not have room for it) :-)

Two more 10x10 players desesperatly needed to start fast Halma tournament !

Thanks for your help Kevin. Just to make sure I have things clear here.
The tournament now has 4 people, 3 are unrated. Of the three one has 11 games started, once the tourney starts he will have a total 19 games stared. If I close the tournament early will all the games start? Currently none will exceed the 20 game max allowed to pawns.
I would think the tourney bot would recognize the minum number of players required to start and would start the tournament.
Strange indeed.

The tournaments are not started automatically - that is the job of the tournament creator :-)

When you want to start it, click the button that says "Close for Signups" on the tournament page. That will take you to another page in which you will be allowed to start the tournament. Remember you have to click two buttons (one to close sign-ups and another to start the tournament) before it will start.

And also when the first round completes, if there is to be a 2nd round, that is your job to start as well. It will not start automatically ;-)

There is still plenty of room to join the BIG BAD WOLF presents: ALL 6 Pente Games! (#7)

It includes all 6 versions of Pente and will start in about 24 hours.

Starting Wednesday is MadMonkeys 'Boat Battle'
Click Here to enter :)

I guess I did understand the TD needed to start the tournament. I was concerned about starting it before the assigned sign up date.

Since the required number for the minium players is met and it looks as if all players can participate, I assumed I could start the tourament with out it being canceled for some silly reason on the tourey bot.

Thanks again.

Una

I have just created Chess and variants for dummies :) (under 1500 BKR) tournament.

Everyone that enjoys chess but not getting trashed by superior opponents is welcome to join. This is also a great opportunity to try out all the variants you always wanted to but didn't for a reason or another.

Tournament will be starting July 1st.

damn that s-b system, i thought i was gonna get joint honours, beat the top two players, drew on points and came in second! :-(

anyone want to sign up for any games ,some to start as soon as theres 4 people back,nackgammon &open pente
also lots of other games to start july ;~)
jasons games room

Just for kicks, I tried entering some tournaments that I was rated either too high or too low for, and I was able to do it!? I was expecting to see some note saying I didn't qualify, but instead my name was placed on the list, which I immediately removed.

Then, I wondered if someone deliberately or by accident made such an entry, how would it be handled? Do the organizers delete anybody who should not be there when they start the tournament?

That's intersting, I have tested this feature and it seemed to be working correctly. I will look at it.

It has never happened to me, but i have seen a few cases where people were allowed to join when they shouldn't have (especially when unrated is set to no, it seems unrated players can still join sometimes).

For me, it always gave me the message something like "You cannot join this tournament because your [insert game here] rating (####) is out of the defined range".

I do like the idea of letting the person who creates the tournaments to be able to kick certain people out of the tournament.

This could come in handy when:

1. A pawn or Knight enters and does not have enough spots (like when the max players are set to 4 or 5 - it could mean the tournament will not start unless they are removed)

2. Also when someone somehow gets into a tournament and their rating is outside of the "scope".

...........
But on the other hand, I can see this being abused and causing some people to get mad when they are removed from a tournament. Something to think about though.

Anyway, I've just created a prize tournament [actually, four prize tournaments in one group] open for everyone :-)

BBW: I 100% agree, whoever starts a tournament should be able to make sure it runs correctly, in fellowships mainly.
My only concern i about rated ones, what if your rating is good enough (or bad - depending) at the time of entering, but then changes ??

Fencer: what happens if YOU win? will you be downgraded to a rook for one year? :)))

rabbitoid: Heh ;-) If I win, the prize will be given to the player on the second place.

Congrats to Lone Outlaw who won my Brain Pawn Tourney, I hope you enjoy the prize! Thanks to everyone who entered! Look out for a new one soon!

How about the being able to make "private" tournaments where the creator has to invite players to play in the tournament.

Right now to do that, you would have to create a fellowship, create a fellowship tournament, the invite the players you want to play.

Why? Lets take example some of the Backgammon Tournaments I have created. Maybe once I get the first 7 winners, I will want to invite them to an "overall" championship match. Or possible you have a group of friends that would like to get together for a friendly tournament.

Just an idea. :-)

Hey I like that one, Big Bad Wolf. That would be great!

The problem i can see with the creator being able to kick players out is as follows...

My brother plays the game StarCraft (if anyone is familiar with it). Anyways, quite often, people will create a game, and ban anyone who joins for no reason at all. The game sits there forever, never starts, and takes up space both on the server and the list of games screen.
I can see this happening here too...someone will create a tournament, kick everyone out who joins, and it will never start - just remain on the list forever.

Although, i still think its a good idea, because that likely would not happen very often.
And I agree with the private tournaments as well - good idea :-)

I for one am all for being able to set up a tournament which features invites only. There are times you want to play certain people or perhaps from a club or something. It would be very helpful.

The idea is a good one BBW. Who ever creates a tournament, could send out seperate invites, if they decline then fair anough, im sure there would still be enough to take part.

There is still the problem of rated tournaments though as mentioned earlier.

Also that people in fellowship tournaments who leave a fellowship, can still carry on there game and win, surely that is not right for the members of the fellowship.
Like BBW says, tounament creators should be able to make sure there tournaments are run fair for all in them.

... the brain pawns have to draw straws to see which one HAS to PAY to become a Brain Rook :)

This pertains to the talk of being able to audit a list of participants in a tournament.

I want to offer a $3000 first prize tournament for the World Championship this year, and I want to play it online. But, I will require an entrance fee of $50 per participant.

I never thought of creating my own Fellowship then inviting only those who have paid, but that is a good idea if it would be too much trouble to implement otherwise.

Winner also gets a nice cup trophy (a great big one) and the title of World Champion of Gothic Chess.

Does this sound good?

Fellowships can only be joined by paying members, if you offer a tournament sponsered through a fellow ship, then players will have to not only pay the $50.00 entrance fee but also buy membership here.

In my humble opinion, the fellowship is for paying members. If a person starts a fellowship, they should be able to invite anyone including pawns. I am not sure how management feels here, but if a person pays for the membership one of the perks is being able to establish fellowships. What good is a fellowship if the a person can not invite those he wants to join?
I can understand a limit on pawns to not join any fellowship, but if they are invited by a paying member then the system should allow it. Just a thought.
Una

Management feels that non-paying members have really many advantages [compared to other game sites] and does not want to give them anything else for free. Please don't forget that this horde of pawns create a significant CPU load of our machines and giving them more privileges would only increase this load.
There is more about it on http://BrainKing.info tech page.

Ed: I am currently developing "private tournaments" - the tournament creator can invite specific players to sign up and nobody else can participate. This could solve your problem - you will allow only people who paid $50 to you to sign up for the World Championship. What do you think?
Btw, I will also not play in this tournament because I have no chance to win it. I am still a beginner in this game :-)

Fencer, everyone is a beginner because its a new game, but IMHO you stand as good a chance as anyone of winning. You're great at chess, and have only lost one game of Gothic in the prize tournament. Go for it!
And great news on the private tournaments :o)

Do you have a time table when you will have the private tournament up and running?
The reason is we are getting a new tournament ready on the 65thsquare and would like to use the server here to run it.

Thanks

Una

i've just created a tourn for the mid-range line 4 players 1400-2000, sign ups close 7th july. come join.

I just hope the planned tournament doesn't
include the harrassment I had to suffer from
Mr. Trice during our games ...

My trust in such a cash-orgy is limited since then. ~*~

A selecion of 'Gammon' games - Click Here
Starting 1st July

Ed Trice is a con-artist extraordinaire. He wants to appear generous but he'll figure out a way to pocket the prize money while blaming the inferior idiots of BK for being stupid enough to join his tournament. We're far better off simply donating $50 to Fencer's fine, up-&-coming website. Which I will do at first opportunity and recommend highly to others. :)

Congrats to lovelysharon for winning the Eriisa's Free For All (Halma 10x10). I have a new tourney set up which starts July 1.

thanks Eriisa ... :)

I tend to agree, at least as to the notorious nature of Mr. Trice. In my view, it is difficult to demonstrate that he didn't simply steal the idea of Grand Chess (created in 1984 by a Dutch inventor) and apply it to a smaller board with new names for the special pieces. He might swear he never heard of Grand Chess, but it still looks suspicious.

His patents are not impressive. Patent examiners routinely overlook material in the public domain, especially if it is not in their files, or otherwise within easy reach without too much research. And with enough attempts, a slick lawyer can almost always find a way to secure a grant.

He says he is fronting the prize money for the tournament, and since I am not an entrant, I don't really care if he makes good on it or not. I suspect his angle is to gain financially by trying to peddle a lot more of his manufactured sets to the participants.

If i can figure out how to do i'll start this tourney on wednesday. So far we have 24 players but there is still room for more...no entrance fee!!

Chess and variants for dummies :)(under 1500 BKR) - This is a tournament created by kitti which I just love this idea - it will let me play many different chess games that I have not tried before (without being "killed" by good players in the other tournaments - BUT there are many games still with under 4 players, so I'll do a little more advertisment for kitti and let people know if they want to try new or different games, GO SIGN UP! (games start in about a day)

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I've actually liked the idea so much, I've created ALL Checkers for dummies (under 1500 + unrated) - Which like the Chess tournament created by kitti, it is a great way for me to at least play a few Checker games and try them out..... without being killed by the good players! (games start in about 2 weeks)

BBW (BIG BAD WOLF)

Thanks BBW, i was just about to write similar advertisement but you saved me from doing that :)

I'll prolly go and signup for some of the checkers games

Glad to help! As I write this right now, there are 6 Chess variants that do not have enough players... so hopefully (HINT HINT) some more people will go try some Chess games that they normally would not play - I know for myself, I don't play much chess - but you never know if a variant version of Chess would be something you like or not without trying it first - And what better place to try it then at THIS TOURNAMENT ..... yes, I know - another shamless plug. :-)

right i have filled up as many as i can! i will probably regret it later though! ha ha cos i have not played most of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me recommend a great checker discussion fellowship Club2000. We play no games but analyze checker games, strategies and check out websites. We are affiliated with no club so all levels and players are welcome to come and chat or just watch.