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11. February 2011, 13:53:58

nabla

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grenv & Justaminute: You are correct that the king must be attacked and that I forgot to tell about stalemate. If the stalemate rule is needed, what about "When you don't have any move that would not lose the king, you are allowed to pass your turn, and if the opponent doesn't capture your king immediately the game is a draw" ?

11. February 2011, 14:09:10

Justaminute

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nabla:
I don't see any reason to rewrite the FIDE rules

If you don't have a legal move the game is over. Nothing to do with taking a king on the next move.
The rules also cover the point about moving your king to a square where it is under attack. Again the question is , is it defined as being under attack on bliack's 40th or whites 41st? I vote black's 40th

11. February 2011, 14:19:35

grenv

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Justaminute: I think the rule is clear and doesn't need clarification.

The ice age event happens between blacks 40th move and white's 41st...

if the event means that white can move out of check (or simply isn't in check any more) then blacks 40th move is not checkmate.

Interpreting it the other way is simply misunderstanding that this is a different game than regular chess... just because the position *would be* checkmate in a regular game doesn't mean it is here.

11. February 2011, 14:26:40

Justaminute

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grenv:
Which is correct if you assess the position at whites 41st move but not if you assess the position at black's 40th. As black never benefits from being saved by an ice age I don't support the argument that whitr should be able to.

11. February 2011, 14:41:54

grenv

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Justaminute: That would seem to be an argument for how the ice age event goes into effect at all... but once you have the event you should treat it consistently.
Maybe the ice age event should happen every 39 moves instead of every 40 so that it alternates.

11. February 2011, 15:07:29

Bwild

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grenv: alternating ice ages would seem to even out the playing field