BIG BAD WOLF: Game wins.

gambler104: No matter what limit is created, the boards can be always accessed by a script (I've already detected something like this yesterday). The points for game wins would be a better option.
Hey, this is a game site, not a chat site! The point system should support playing games, not reading boards.

Fencer: How about something like I suggested on General Chat - give 10 points for reading a public board, 5 points for fellowship board - but limit that to once a day for each board.

That way it will still encourage user to read (or at least look) at the boards, but they don't feel like then need to come every hour and click on every board just to gain points. (just once a day)

gambler104: It's just a little frustrating when you play all night to try to get points, and then someone comes and gets a lot more without half of the work.

Fencer: I'm not against having board points, but maybe limit it to 200 or 300 a day. That would easily prevent cheating, but still promote reading the boards relatively often.

playBunny: It's not possible to get more than one (two) point from the same posts. But I agree the actual "reading" cannot be easily detected, so I am willing to remove the board points but they must be replaced by something else, in order to keep the four options. Make your suggestion.

Fencer: Just so that I'm clear on this..

There's a trick which people can use to get more than one point from the same posts on a board and this isn't cheating. It's okay to use the trick.

Everyone knows how to make moves in games. Everyone knows how to visit a board to read a post. This is knowledge that the site provides.

Not everybody knows this multiple-points-from-boards trick (perhaps involving different browsers, multiple windows, cookie files, or who knows what - and I'm not one of them yet).

If I and sid and everyone else knew this trick we could make 1000s of board-reading points with it. But we don't know it. You say it's a legitimate tactic yet we don't know how to do it.

Would you be willingly to let us all know how to gain these multiple points, please, so that the competition can be fair?

And, just to confirm .. If I or sid discover how to use this trick and stop trying to win by making moves and simply make 4000 points per day from this trick, you'll be happy to let the points stand?

Fencer: I understand that this is just a test month, but I think people are a little upset since you are giving away nice prizes and they don't think that all discussion points are being earned fairly. And from a post by KotDB, it would seem that they are correct.

So we do not keep filling this board up with a long discussion, I've posted some ideas for the points system on the General Chat Board - come take a look, and add your own suggestions & ideas.

Fencer: ok . thanks for letting me know. guess i should try figure out how other people are doing it ...lol

sidpatel: I don't think it's cheating as long as it follows the rules. Anyway, this is just a test month.

Fencer: i dont know how changes are made but if you have to get ridf of all everyones move points again just to make change and even though i am on top i still dont mind because then atleast no one would cheat. thankyou again.

Fencer: ok thankyou very very much

sidpatel: If I do it and Czuch Chuckers complain again about "it's not fair!", I will tell him to ask you for the explanation, okay?

Fencer: with 2 points per board once an hour , even if 10 different boards have new messages every hour and if someone stays up 24 hours to read all 10 boards every hour , that totals to 2 X 10 X 24 = 480 and ofcoarse no one can be here 24 hours at least no day by day. since its summer holidays , ive been here 15 - 16 hours daily and reading boards every hour and the max points i got were 200 something. kotDB has openly said that there is a bug and hes making points to prove it but besides that there are other people now who have 400+ points for boards per day ..i noticed few people sahar , the lamer , luisifer and peca. my question is can we please please get rid of points for boards so that everyone gets points for making moves. that way i think there will be no cheating and points would be fair.

Stevie: well, some agree with you and some don't...and only one person's opinion on this really matters. Fencer has his reasons for saying no to it, and this site has many, many other features that far outweigh that one little thing...imo

WatfordFC: no problem, you didn't know

Shame its one of the best things for a lot of games,, and its only site that dont have it

baddessi: ok, sorry

WatfordFC: yep- like Reza said..a BIG no...Fencer said NO and to let it GO.....

baddessi: ok, didnt know it had been discussed before, if it had ben didnt know what the outcome was, i take it, it was a no, no then lol

WatfordFC: just to give you a thuimbs up..it's been discussed and discussed and is the ONE subject that we're not going to get into...I think..right????

then again..we DID get the gammon cube

Stevie: Why, i think its an excellent idea.

WatfordFC: Youll soon see, that its not a good idea to agree with me on this one Ali hehehehe

Stevie: Yes, i think that is a good idea.

WatfordFC: Now he can concentrate on Autopass to speed other games up also then ;o)

Fencer: with 2 points per board once an hour , even if 10 different boards have new messages every hour and if someone stays up 24 hours to read all 10 boards every hour , that totals to 2 X 10 X 24 = 480 and ofcoarse no one can be here 24 hours at least no day by day. since its summer holidays , ive been here 15 - 16 hours daily and reading boards every hour and the max points i got were 200 something. kotDB has openly said that there is a bug and hes making points to prove it but besides that there are other people now who have 400+ points for boards per day ..i noticed 2 - 3 , sahar , the lamer and peca. my question is can we get rid of points for boards so that evryone gets points for making moves. that way i think there will be no cheating.

whopper: If a paying member expires, he stays at the paying members chart for the rest of the month. And if a pawn upgrades to a payed membership, he is moved to the next chart immediately, of course.

Dolittle:

pawnme: LOL

What happens if a Rook membership expires during the period of the contest, for instance on the 29. of July, and the member becomes a Pawn? Does he compete with the other Pawns?

Dolittle: yeah,but for people like me that are very competitive..the lack of sleep is killing me!! LMAO!! I'm far from the top but refuse to give up without a fight!!

See, like Fencer said..there is a reason!!

WatfordFC: I'll agree with that, even the "known" slow movers are moving daily. Heck I have a game that started last year sometime and with this new system I might even finsh it this year

Well I worked out how he is doing it by following his actions.

He is just simply going to a url and then increasing the number by 1 each time. I did this a few times and it is amazing what boards you see that normally you cannot.

Just try this, go to the following links

http://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=109
http://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=110
http://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=111
http://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=112
http://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=113
http://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=114

etc etc, go down 1 by 1 or go up 1 by 1. I would suggest going down but I havent tried it all the way.

WatfordFC: It is a perception that isn't seen by a lot of other players, they are still soooooooo slow. LOL

Since this new points system, everybody seems to be taking their moves sooooooooooooooooo much fasterrrrrrrrrrrrrrr now . WEll done Fencer

mako887:

I've been here a while. Really enjoy it. Like the "unlimited" moves for even non-paying members. That seems fair.

Fencer, did you decide what to do with pawns who have more games(from being an ex-paying member)?

Czuch Czuckers: Yes, besides other things.

Fencer: Trying to create a high volume to test the server capabilities?

Fencer: LOL To tell you the truth I deleted it accidentally ..No wonder I don't know what is going on. Sorry..
Thanks Vikings.
Oh by the way I love the idea of using Pay Pal, again..Thanks Erlisa..

Pbarb2: Deep in the fundamental heart of mind and Universe there is a reason.

Pbarb2: it's the contest that showed up on your main page july 1st. you can win a 1,2 or 3 year membership or 200 brains
Fencer July Action 2006/06/30, 17:01:09
Modified by Fencer (2006/07/01, 00:46:13)
1) Good news! Thanks to Eriisa we could reactivate the PayPal option, so there are no more problems to use PayPal for any payments on BrainKing.

2) July Action! Let us try something different this month. In order to test what our site is capable of (and to give our users another chance to compete), July is the Month of Action Points. If this test period produces good results, the system of points can continue in the following months as well. And let us start with some attractive prizes:
1. place: 3 years Brain Rook membership
2. - 3. place: 2 years Brain Rook membership
4. - 5. place: 1 year Brain Rook membership
6. - 10. place: 200 Brains
Please read the rules and other information here. As you can see, the system works separately for paying members and pawns, which means there will be 20 prizes to award. It is also possible to give the prize to another user if you win and do not want to use it.
And, of course, suggestions to improve this system are welcome.

I have no understanding what this is about. What do these points do? Is it just something to keep busy or what?

who is collecting action points

by resigning a game that won't be over for 10-12 moves is only costing me points! please don't resign anymore games!

Vikings: bingo, thank you too!