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Temo: geeeez...

I came back to check on things, and sucky ducky...looky here! I had finished all my games last month before I left BK, and I return to find a whole set! Reminds me of the early days of IYT....lol

Anyway, since I only play backgammon, I'll be at DailyGammon.com if anyone want to pick up a game. I play under the name picklez...

Fencer et al...wish you all well with this site...

=^..^=

6. Novembro 2003, 18:26:23

Summertop

Temo: I wish I had your memory...

I have had more than one game per opponent, I can't remember which ones I've won and which ones I've lost...Basically, I ask my opponents what they want. Most just want to finish the game (most of my games only had 5-6 moves in them).

6. Novembro 2003, 17:53:55

Grim Reaper

Temo: Me too

I resigned all the games I was lost in...but it did not change anything :)

6. Novembro 2003, 15:33:27

yes and i have resigned all the games that i know i have lost too . if everyone did the same we would be all sorted in our games

6. Novembro 2003, 14:52:06

bwildman

well Jason....seems to me those people that lost...are hoping to win!! so,I'm making it easy on them...by resigning all my games and starting over with fresh ones.

6. Novembro 2003, 12:06:23

grillyx

i canned them all, they are games i have already played. not really bothered with the bkr, it will sort itself out over time

6. Novembro 2003, 10:47:42

the only people who would want to delete games would be the ones that had lost the games already

6. Novembro 2003, 10:15:11

Mystery Man

what would happen if we just refrain from plying these games that come back to haunt us from the past here.. i mean, we already won or lost them and i really can't see replaying the "same" games over again.. OR can we (somehow) just DELETE them, without getting a penalty put against you (your bk ratings) for it..?? then we could start up again with new games.. shoot, i had like 5 tourney games going before the crash.. they just disapeared and that is what i was looking forward to, coming back here from the crash.. :(
How 'bout it Fencer.. can you install a "delete button" with no penalties for us (if we so choose to take that route)..?? :)

6. Novembro 2003, 08:00:29

Bernice

just curious
I dont know whose board it was but there was a discussion board that had computer queries and answers and was of great interest (to me anyway)
Will it be resurrected???

6. Novembro 2003, 01:32:41

danoschek

montri mesaĝojn de ĉi tiu uzanto | montri fadenon | ligilo

Temo: Re: Game Time

I second.

So I have some days yet for resolving most cases
privately before I even start to bother with requests ... :P ... ~*~

6. Novembro 2003, 01:29:05

Czuch

montri mesaĝojn de ĉi tiu uzanto | montri fadenon | ligilo

Temo: Re: Game Time

I think he just did! LOL

6. Novembro 2003, 01:05:20

coan.net

montri mesaĝojn de ĉi tiu uzanto | montri fadenon | ligilo

Temo: Game Time

Well give us at least a few days warning when the time will be turned back on - I have aprox 400 games with 0 time, and with the site going slower then normal, plus less time myself - it will take me awhile to get my games back to where they were a few days ago! :-)

5. Novembro 2003, 23:01:21

Fencer

Within a week.

5. Novembro 2003, 22:51:34

Czuch

Temo: suspended game time

When will the suspended game time be lifted?

5. Novembro 2003, 19:59:27

bwildman

But did you say we can get our bkr restored? my backgammon rating is the only one I'm concerned with...My chess ratings are mediocre at best...especially playing the likes of Danoschek and Fencer!! not to mention several other exceptional players here!! :)

5. Novembro 2003, 19:55:29

Fencer

danoschek: If you resign only the first game, the match will continue in the second game.

5. Novembro 2003, 19:48:20

I scrapped ALL mine today, and have now started some new ones, and I must admit I am much happier for it, I can play without worrying about my moves? (did I move here the last time? etc)

And erm.....I do think you did win them anyhow bwildman LMAO

5. Novembro 2003, 19:45:41

bwildman

Well Dano...I'm with Aragon...just resigning all these games and gunna start fresh...been 2 days and so far the only resignation I've recieved is Aragons...(course I think I won them anyway!! LOL) j/k.....but its seems the only way to make any sense.

5. Novembro 2003, 19:14:32

I had the senario this morning dano, the second (or thitd and fourth) start independantly after you resign the preceeding one.

5. Novembro 2003, 19:11:06

danoschek

Temo: a detail question to Fencer

in a two-games match I should resign the first game
that I lost - is a resign only inflicting the one game or,
will I lose the whole match then like it would happen at iyt ? ~*~

5. Novembro 2003, 17:35:26

http://brainking.info/

its all in there High Tide :o)

5. Novembro 2003, 17:33:38

i don't have the time to do this right now i'll get it together this evening...has fencer actually made this re-instating the ratings statement somewhere .....i'd like to read it and be confident i'm not just giving these games away...

5. Novembro 2003, 17:22:39

harley

High Tide, the original server problems still remain. You will continue to get the white screen when the server is full until a new server is in place. And I should imagine people are spending longer than usual here to sort things out. I know I am :o)

5. Novembro 2003, 17:18:31

is anybody else getting alot of white screens here today....everytime i make a move or write here i have to reload the site....

5. Novembro 2003, 17:16:23

hey....did you send him the nics of players you played and the outcome or can i make it a shorter message and just send the ratings..??

5. Novembro 2003, 17:15:09

LOL - you will be pleasantly surprised :o)

Who knows, you may even come back on here and let us know and maybe even become a member with your renewed faith in the site??

5. Novembro 2003, 17:13:25

i'll believe it when it happens but i'll give it a go...thanks bud

5. Novembro 2003, 17:09:46

Well there you go then, simply resign all these 'GroundHog Day' games of yours, and then send Fencer the BKRs that you recorded. You will be back in the top ten and starting anew :)

5. Novembro 2003, 17:07:32

i was just reading some of the other comments here and who says he'll correct the ratings..????.....i have most of mine written down....i could even tell you who i played to get there....i don't play alot of games here since the last time this happened..probably won't start any new ones either...hey...i don't have to i can just keep playing the same ones over and over...

5. Novembro 2003, 17:07:05

Erm...... to what end would Fencer wish to manipulate the rating High Tide?? Just to keep YOU out of the top ten? I very much doubt it :o)

5. Novembro 2003, 17:05:14

If you remember what they were then send them to Fencer, he will change them for you :o)

I for example, took note of mine, then resigned every game that I had previously completed (won or lost) and then got the BKRs put back, so in a sense I am starting a fresh (new games only) with my BKRs as they stood??

5. Novembro 2003, 17:03:20

read it yesterday thanks , i also asked how bkrs can be changed in a fair way , there isnt one if my bkrs were put to where they was before the crash , i t wouldnt be exactly fair because i may still have games going which could still alter the outcome , but if people start altering there bkr i will want mine put back too ,

5. Novembro 2003, 16:59:42

i just don't see the sense in having a rating system at this site...at all......every few months it's crashing.....i don't know if this has anything to do with the reason but it always corresponds to when i win a few games and finally make it in the top 10 at a game....then i drop back down...twice now it's happened in the last 2 months...i'm even playing the same games that he backed up the last time it did this...they're just backed up farther to give them a better chance at winning.....i think it's pre-planned to manipulate the ratings..

5. Novembro 2003, 16:58:47

coan.net

Well I don't think anything else is actually being restored. What we see is what they were able to get back.

BUT - what I think fencer is doing is if a user knows what ratings they had before the crash, he is changing (restoring) the rating to what the user says it was.

... and possible if a user knows the outcome of certain games or tournaments, Fencer may also be changing (restoring) those also???? I'm not really sure. Hopefully once Fencer logs back on, he will let us know what he is doing - and if he would like us users to slow down with new games/tournament, or to start going full speed again! :-)

5. Novembro 2003, 16:56:39

I think you should read Fencer's own post on the BrainKing.Info page. It is CLEAR as a bell i think :o) and from the horses mouth (so to speak)

5. Novembro 2003, 16:51:53

gothic has just said differnt , so i dont know what to think

5. Novembro 2003, 16:47:12

As I understand it Jason, what you have now is all that can be(and has been) recovered. No further games will appear except for new ones you create.

5. Novembro 2003, 16:41:13

what do you mean restore games that are lost ? i had aked fencer yesterday if there was going to be any more information to be restored ...but havent had an answer yet . i dont want to spend my days making moves for nothing if they are going to dissapear when any update is done

5. Novembro 2003, 16:38:48

Summertop

Temo: Support

If you have a computer...it is going to crash. I think Fencer and Liquid are doing an outstanding job. However, I hope the new hardware planned for this site comes soon.

5. Novembro 2003, 16:34:57

coan.net

* and I come here and read the past few message right after I just created 7 more of the "Fast start" tournaments! * :-)

How much is Fencer restoring? I understand that if someone knows what their previous rating is, or things like that, he will change it for him - but for me (and probable many others), I'm not going to worry about having him do that for me - since some of mine have went up, some down - and I don't know exactly what they were before the crash.

BUT - I know many users (and new users) and quickly trying to get some more games going because they may not have much anymore - and new tournaments are a good way for them to start playing again.

5. Novembro 2003, 16:30:18

red dragon

What we don't play in tournaments we'll play in games between ourselves anyway.

5. Novembro 2003, 16:18:56

I doub't holding off on creating new tornamnets will ease anything? As Fencer stated just before the crash (BBW could create as many tournaments as he wanted because it doesn't effect the loading of the server!!)

Sorry to use you as an example BBW, but I don't think that creating tournaments will TAX the server any more? It is after all fully re-installed a new and running better than before the crash I would expect?

Perhaps if Filip would clarify though incase I am wrong??

5. Novembro 2003, 16:15:53

Stevie

montri mesaĝojn de ĉi tiu uzanto | montri fadenon | ligilo

Temo: Re: Just a suggestion to all

I think the prize ones need to keep coming, they will be needed to get a little cash back into Fencer's pocket sooner rather than later.

5. Novembro 2003, 16:12:58

Grim Reaper

montri mesaĝojn de ĉi tiu uzanto | montri fadenon | ligilo

Temo: Just a suggestion to all

This site is going to be very busy for the next couple of weeks I would imagine. Fencer is working hard to restore games that have been lost. The ratings are skewed now, and this has the chance to permanently effect all subsequent games being rated.

Given this is the case, I think we should have a moritorium on the creation of new tournaments for a while. New tournaments means new games which means activity which means the website would be taxed.

How about we let Fencer just work on getting things as close to normal as possible without putting the extra load on the server?

Let 's take a 2 week break from creating new tournaments to let things stabilize a bit.

5. Novembro 2003, 15:20:31

kingme

Temo: Great Job

a Great Job to the staff at brainking for the hard work I know they had to have done to get the site back up. And for the record, I don't know what games I've won or lost that are back...I just enjoy the chance to play. So, if anyone thinks I'm a bad sport...forgive me

5. Novembro 2003, 15:01:12

montri mesaĝojn de ĉi tiu uzanto | montri fadenon | ligilo

Temo: Re: Not sure why so much negativity

Not perfect huh LOL :oÞ

And you are dead right Rose, it (with an sh) happens. I have at several times in the last 5 years lost data permanently, and I DO HAVE all the things that Filip would like to have in place on my system in work. Hot Swap SCSI drives, RAID 5, resilient back-up nightly and I still lost data, if its gonna go, you can not (will not) prevent it :o( it is the nature of the beast im afraid. And 6 weeks is nothing on the grand scheme of things LOL I lost 8 months once (try explaining that to the boss LMAO)

5. Novembro 2003, 14:50:47

Rose

montri mesaĝojn de ĉi tiu uzanto | montri fadenon | ligilo

Temo: Not sure why so much negativity

Computers are man made.. Men arent perfect (Sorry Steve-O and Aragon but it's true, men arent perfect! :-)) Why ppl are so upset and so angry over this makes no sense. Everyones home computer has gone.. scuse the expression "tits-up" at one time or another.. Did you blame your self over that? Highly unlikely. This site is so much better run then any other turn based site right now. The feed back you get from the site owner is second to none. Crap happens

5. Novembro 2003, 13:16:59

is this going to be a bi-monthly thing now ...the site losing all the memory of games i mean....how about making monthly game leader boards...then maybe at the end of a certain amount of time the leaders in that span play each other for a champion...just trying to think of a new system here....the one in place doesn't seem to be working with all the gamesite alzhiemers that happens

5. Novembro 2003, 13:03:28

noholdsbarred

I agree a new start and Filip, no Hurry I am very busy right now but can you just delete all my games with no penalty to either myself or my opponent... BKR's will sort themselves out again in due course...
The chess club ladders, tournaments and the interfellowship match will have to be restarted from scratch

5. Novembro 2003, 12:58:44

niloc