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19. Decembro 2003, 15:59:21
Sprietzsche 
Temo: and this?
rather quiet here... i wonder wheter there would be an echo if i shouted this message ...
what about a "new" variation of line4: line4x4x4. Actually, the name says it all: it is played on four 4x4boards, representing a cube. Aim of the game: get four stones in a row (duh). Here is a link to try it out
http://www.cluchey.com/3d4r.html

8. Decembro 2003, 00:17:52
jestone 
Temo: how about this?
some sites to practice against a java program:

1) http://members.aol.com/shadows125/connect4.htm

2) http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/System/3517/C4/C4Conv.html

...and there are more.

6. Decembro 2003, 00:33:01
grant 
hmmm first to post...what to say...dunno.

4. Decembro 2003, 01:34:05
stanley6 
Temo: ok soooooooooooo
what do i do?? lol

3. Decembro 2003, 21:36:26
Retired on 2700 
Temo: Variationns
Well me and my brother(rahvin666) are currently trying out Spider line5 (or Stack 5x5) on a five in a line board now here at BK! We are only playing up to the letter J, which makes it a 10x10 board for starters. My first impressions so far of this is that its a bit to slow in starting, not much excitement, BUT as more moves are layed down, the thinking then starts!...see how it goes for now.

Kevin, how about the 'free space' move goes to black only and they can use it at any point during the game.

e.g. If white starts D1 then moves over to A4 on second move, then black could go for the prime sqaure, which would be D4! Hence it would be 'free in space'...or black could use it later in the game if you can see a white winning set up!...or you could vary this by white having 2 free space moves with black having 3! white then would not be such as an advantage(I dont think it is anyway in normal 4x4, but weve already had that debate, SLAYER? lol)

3. Decembro 2003, 09:10:06
Gone and exit 
Temo: Re: Variations??
I meant of course that Spiderline4, or Stack 4x4 isn't that much of a challenge to me anymore....Matt knows what I mean....we know way too much theory and forced wins even after move 3 or 4! Then the following 6 till 10 moves are no fun........

3. Decembro 2003, 09:06:54
Gone and exit 
Temo: Re: Variations??
Spiderline 5, or Stack 5x5 on a 12x12 board would be very interesting!! Then, new theories will have to be found out!! I'd love to try that one out (a 10 games exhibition match, Matt?!) lol
Would be a challenge as Spiderline 5 isn't that much of a challenge anymore for me, except against the best (no offense)........

3. Decembro 2003, 06:20:15
Kevin 
Hexagons could be fun, although i imagine it would be even easier for player 1 (having 6 directions from each piece rather than 4).

Without a much larger board, 5 in a line would almost never happen but could be fun.

I would have to study it more, but my first impression tells me that a "free space" would give player 1 a much larger advantage, if not a forced win.

2. Decembro 2003, 18:54:33
Retired on 2700 
Temo: Variations??
Can anyone think of any Spider line4 variations? like maybe have a 'free space' move per game in any square you like, or have a different shaped board, like a spiders web shape? or Spider line5(five) would be very interesting, & extremly hard to achieve! this could be for the advanced players maybe?

27. Novembro 2003, 19:25:10
Pedro Martínez 
Temo: Ajax
and Feyenoord!!!

27. Novembro 2003, 10:27:44
Gone and exit 
Temo: Re: Help!
Yeah m8 Matt, keep on beating me and like I already said, keep them all connected, not only on the board! Liverpool F.C. and P.S.V. rule!!

27. Novembro 2003, 09:33:22
Retired on 2700 
Temo: Re: Help!
lol, yes your right its not arrogance, its just my silly English humour, as Stefan knows, sorry! just wanted to see if anyone could give me some tips, Stefan? ;-)

27. Novembro 2003, 08:44:36
Gone and exit 
Temo: Re: Help!
My dearest friend Matt, wants either to get a discussion about the game or uses the famous English humour! His message sounds a bit arrogant, but I can tell you he is NOT, I am though, lol

Matt, keep them all connected!

Stefan, (former rival)

27. Novembro 2003, 02:08:34
Kevin 
Yes, that 2660 rating leads everyone to believe you're not quite sure how to play, M4tt ;-)

27. Novembro 2003, 01:30:21
rod03801 
Temo: Re: Help!
Well, if you want to go to the Rules, here on brainking, click here.

26. Novembro 2003, 16:55:10
Retired on 2700 
Temo: Help!
How do you play Spider line4, does anyone know? ;)

8. Novembro 2003, 13:50:24
RAHVIN666 
Temo: Unrated tourney #1
come and join this tourney everyone.
SpiderLine4 Unrated Tourney #1

31. Julio 2003, 02:10:42
Tactician 
Temo: 2000+ Linetris Tourney
All the Linetris experts out there make you sign up for Rahvin's 2000+ Elite Linetris tourney.

14. Aprilo 2003, 16:48:23
Gone and exit 
Temo: Strategy
Just play a lot, try to learn from your mistakes and not making them twice! (StackMaster knows what I mean, lol) Try to understand what certain positions are all about and what the key squares are........and don't miss force wins if they are there. Play not too aggressive when you are playing black! Defend first and counter only when the time is right, but you can only learn by experience when it is that right time...) Do not replay the games of the best too much because if your opponent makes another move you just don't know what the position is about and you'll probably lose..... Making notes on the games is recommendable! Put your fisrt piece always on the same place eg e1!
I did all this and it ended up so far with 32 tourney wins at www. itsyourturn.com, which noone ever achieved and 2400+ points here but that doesn't say that much I think.......

Regards,
Stefan

13. Aprilo 2003, 21:07:47
coan.net 
Temo: Strategy
Here are things you can do to help your game:

1) Look at old games - take a look at the top players, study some of their past games - a lot of time, people will "fall" into the same trap over and over.

2) Whenever it is your turn - look at where the other person put their piece. STUDY IT, and ask youself "Why did they put that there" - most of the time you can find what they are planning, and go from there.

3) Use your in-game notes to yourself - If I have a plan, or something - I always list it in the notes for myself to read - like "watch out for B3" - or a step by step plan like "(me B3)(him B4) (me E3) - win 2 ways".

... that is all from me for now.

BBW (BIG BAD WOLF)

13. Aprilo 2003, 02:07:23
Kevin 
My strategy is to try and get 4 in a row. :-)
lol

12. Aprilo 2003, 13:47:23
StackMaster 
Temo: Re: strategy
Hello Artfuldodger,
If you invite me I will share my strategy with you. Good Luck

12. Aprilo 2003, 08:22:32
cya peeps 
Temo: strategy
anyone care to share their strategy ideas??

31. Marto 2003, 15:49:28
Watson 
Temo: Game 40322
Hi...game 40322 will not let me click a submit button...keep getting brainking ran into technical problem....but I am still able to play other games.

11. Februaro 2003, 13:48:41
gfdg54dfg45gf 
Temo: Re: Game # 23425
Kevin,that was exactly it. Silly me, must have been during one of my old timers moments.Thanks a lot

9. Februaro 2003, 22:07:24
Kevin 
Temo: Re: Game # 23425
Without looking at the game, i will assume that the last move filled the bottom row, making it dissappear and everything else drop down. The blue square is to indicate the last move was in that column. It is very possible to have several moves in the same square (in the bottom row only) because of this rule. Hope that helps!
Kevin

9. Februaro 2003, 14:53:14
gfdg54dfg45gf 
Temo: Game # 23425
I'm playing this game with Dawn and on the game notations it has both of us moving on B1 It showed up as an empty blue square on my turn. Tried to play on top of it and couldn't. It let me move on B1 also

4. Decembro 2002, 05:03:56
Kevin 
Temo: Re:
Thanks! Now i'm happy (for now! lol) :-)

3. Decembro 2002, 06:51:28
Fencer 
Done, see the rules.

30. Novembro 2002, 09:47:40
Fencer 
Temo: Re: Draws??
Kevin: Thanks for the tip. I will think it over.

30. Novembro 2002, 04:08:59
Kevin 
Temo: Draws??
When the board fills up, is the game a draw, or is it a win for the first player? If it is a draw, the second player can simply mirror what the first player does (same thing on other side of board) and never get Four in a row (only the first player can). If it is a win for the first player, it should be specified in the rules. Thanks!

19. Novembro 2002, 10:11:03
Fencer 
Temo: Re: Hi
I'll be glad to play another game with you :-)

19. Novembro 2002, 09:35:19
Bobby Moves 
Temo: Hi
I love this game...anybody wanna play?

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