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opposing drilling for oil and forcing a health care package on the country when there is a recession or borderline depression on hand .....I don't think...I mean my economic skills ain't be as good as his or Rahm's.. it dont be seeming such a good idea
Tuesday: If he is doing good for the economy as best he can.. then we all should prosper right?.. on another note.. In the state of PA.. the new Gov. agrees with the old Gov( Rendell) that oil companies drilling for shale oil shouldn't get taxed??? huh? sure make a profit ..take natural resources.. but don't get taxed?
Tuesday: secretly? he does think he is the anointed one. I've said it ALL along and will continue to. WORST president in history. Even worse than Carter.
Temo: Re: Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo.
rod03801:
> And? So? Doesn't change the fact that he is inept and just making a mess of things.
Show me a president that hasn't made a mess of things.
Richard Nixon: "I am not a crook!" Need I say more!
Jimmy Carter: Hostages in Iran. To his credit, he did put an end to the Vietnam war.
Ronald Regan: "Reaganomics" plunges the US into the worst recession since the Great Depression. He was the president who first made the deficit explode to stratospheric proportions. "In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $997 billion to $2.85 trillion, and the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation."
George H.W. Bush: His continued pursuit of "Reagonomics". His handling of the economy was so bad that he was not reelected in 1992 in spite of having won the Gulf War.
Bill Clinton: Somalia. Monica Lewinski. To his credit, he oversaw the largest economic and technological expansion of the 20th century, and finished his presidency with a surplus.
George W. Bush: Manufactured intelligence. A war without UN backing. Ruined many long-term alliances in Europe and messed up foreign policy for decades to come. Guantanamo. Abu Graib. Waterboarding. Sending 400,000 Iraqis to their deaths. The biggest stock market crash in history. Manufacturing the bank meltdown and subsequent bailout. He squandered the surplus that he inherited from Clinton and turned it into the worst fiscal and trade deficits in American history.
Barrack Obama: Healthcare (only if you are a Republican!) Iraq and Guantanamo are not done yet.
Temo: Re: And certainly Iran has no fear. They routinely mock Obama.
Artful Dodger: I think you'll find they've been mocking the USA since the end of Persia and the beginning of Iran. I think they would have been especially mocking the USA over the supply of chemical weapons material to Saddam... that he used in the Iran/Iraq war.
Tuesday: I agree, he is a good man,sometimes the current events of the world at the time may be just the way it is, no matter who is running the show,Monday morning quarterbacks can say their guy or gal would be better, but who knows
Temo: Re: Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo.
Tuesday:
> I believe the hostage releases were planned for a certain time to make Carter look bad. That was my impression at the time.
It has been charged many times that Ronald Reagan was dealing with Iran behind the scenes prior to the election so as to delay the release of the hoistages and make sure that Jimmy Carter would lose. The hostages were released 20 minutes after Ronald Reagan was sworn into office. During the election Ronald Reagan said that the USA should not pay ransom for people that had been kidnapped by "barbarians". However, one of his first acts in office was to unfreeze 7 billion dollars that had been frozen in American banks. All in all, there is no proof of any conspiracy, but the claim has been there for a long time.
Temo: Re: Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo.
GT:
> Jimmy took office in 1977.us troops left in 72, all over by 75
Thanks for the correction. Technically speaking, the Paris Peace Accords were signed by Richard Nixon's administration in 1972. However, hostilities from both sides continued until 1975 since the US continued to secretly bomb Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, and the Vietcong continued to push south. I suppose Jimmy Carter inherited the immediate aftermath of the war and he had to deal with issues such as the release of POWs, the search for MIA servicemen, and trying to mend fences with Vietnam. Jimmy Carter was not bad at that. It is where his reputation as a peace maker comes from. Well, the whole Iran mess hurt him badly, plus rising interest rates and a slow down in the economy as the Federal Reserve raised interest rates. All that reached its peak during the Reagan administration. In retrospect, Reagan free market thinking came at the wrong time. It is why during his 8 years in office the US slid into recession.
"''It is horrific to know that in the African American community, 50 percent of all African American pregnancies in the United States end in abortion, 50 percent. That is a genocide of African Americans of the United States. It should not be. There are Americans all across this country who would love to adopt African American babies, but they can't because 50 percent of all African American pregnancies today are ending in abortion.'"
''Normalization (of gayness) through desensitization. Very effective way to do this with a bunch of second graders, is take a picture of 'The Lion King' for instance, and a teacher might say, 'Do you know that the music for this movie was written by a gay man?' The message is: I'm better at what I do, because I'm gay.''
''I don't know where they're going to get all this money because we're running out of rich people in this country.''
''I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence.''
“The President of the United States will be taking a trip over to India that is expected to cost the taxpayers $200 million a day.”
Temo: Re: Where there is a right wing gathering, there is peaceful talk and the grounds are left spotless.
Artful Dodger: Not from what we experience of the likes of the BNP and other right wing marches here in the UK. Violence... insults, racism is what happens.
As for the G20.... I think you'll find a mix of views in such protests, especially as the definition of a conservative is dramatically different elsewhere in the world to the USA definition.
Tuesday: I think because the extremism that many hold view wise on the right is dying a slow death..... and you know what they say about wounded animals!!
Temo: Re: Where there is a right wing gathering, there is peaceful talk and the grounds are left spotless.
Tuesday: I was watching a prog on the birth of the British Blues music era last night. Interesting fact that it took British folk to introduce the Blues to American white folk despite it being born in the USA.