Bashing Palin and Fox with cute little sound bites and weak-kneed sarcasm isn't a rational argument. It's typical of the left because they can't form a logical argument, but they are very good at calling names.

I asked you liberals some GOOD questions which you choose to ignore. Instead, you mock Palin (who cares about Palin anymore...not me!) and make fun of Fox (which is totally ignorant. Fox is the leader in cable news AND all the other cable news outlets are struggling (not Fox). NETWORK news is in the basement and will likely be gone in a few years. No one really watches them if they want REAL news. Independent studies have confirmed this fact.

You people read stuff on the Huffington post and consider your source unbiased. You think MSNBC is reliable. And yet NONE of those outfits covered the story in any depth of voter intimidation by the Black Panthers. ONLY FOX covered it fully and is still following it. But you don't care about real justice. It's ok because the Panthers are black. If they were white, and if Bush were the president, you'd all be spitting mad.

You have NO credibility.

2008 Election Fraud.

Huge scandal against the DNC. It's gonna get bigger. Some blacks were told that if they weren't voting for Obama, they needn't vote. hmmmmm. They were told to leave the voting site. This story will only grow and get worse.

Who are the complainants? Democrats against democrats. And they have tons of evidence.

My Black Dad & Obama
by Lloyd Marcus

I am a black tea party patriot faced with a serious problem concerning my 83-year-old father. Dad is an extraordinary man whose life epitomizes the greatness of America.
In the ’50s, married with a wife and three kids and employed as a laborer, Dad was among the first blacks to break the color barrier into the Baltimore Fire Dept. The white firefighters treated Dad like scum and boldly displayed their displeasure with having an “n” in their firehouse.


Dad was the young associate pastor of a storefront church. He treated his “haters” with love and strove to be the best Christian and firefighter he could be. Dad won “Firefighter of the Year” two times and eventually the respect and admiration of his white fellow firefighters. A white firefighter who once threatened to punch Dad in his “black nose” risked his life by going back into a burning building to save Dad. The two firefighters became lifelong friends.
While married with a wife and five kids, working as a firefighter and an associate pastor, Dad attended college part-time until he graduated. Dad later earned his doctorate degree, which led to him pastoring large churches and authoring a book. Dad also became Chaplain of the Baltimore Fire Dept. Dad’s success story is the result of his character, faith in Christ, and hard work. Dad earned every achievement; no liberal Democrat demanded lowered standards or entitlement programs for him.
Now, here is my problem I mentioned: Dad loves Barack Obama, a man whose philosophy goes against everything I thought my dad stood for. Despite my attempts to convince Dad otherwise, based on my personal experiences attending over two hundred tea parties across America traveling on Tea Party Express, Dad persists in believing the rallies are racist. Dad believes all criticism of Obama and his agenda is racist. It appears that no amount of truth will penetrate the wall of affection Dad has for the historic figure he never imagined would exist in his lifetime.
Out of respect, I have not confronted Dad, my hero, regarding his irrational support for a president whose agenda so radically goes against his Christian faith — gay marriage, abortion, the murderous partial birth abortion, etc. I also thought, “Dad still bears emotional scars from the horrible racism he experienced in his youth. So perhaps I should be a good son, give the old man a pass, and let him enjoy his black president.”
But witnessing the growing tyranny of the Obama regime and his American death march to socialism, I have come to realize it is my patriotic duty to confront my father with the facts about Obama. The stakes are far too high to simply let the old black man enjoy worshiping his first black president. No! America is at risk.
Though in his eighties, Dad is still sharp and pastors four churches. He is bright, articulate, and most importantly come November, a voter with influence. Whether Dad chooses to accept them or not, I must inform him of the facts about Obama’s agenda. Then, when Dad goes behind the curtain of the voting booth, he will have to chose between pulling the lever for Godly principles or skin color.
Most of Dad’s idolatry for president Obama is centered around his skin color. Racism and idolatry are wrong, even when committed by my beloved Dad.
I have faith that still surviving deep within dad’s “Obama Zombie” brain is the wise, wonderful, righteous, and Christian man I have known all of my life.
Disapproving relatives have expressed fear for my safety, warning, “Lloyd is foolishly putting his head on the chopping block!”
Think about that, folks. My black relatives fear I may suffer physical harm from fellow blacks for daring to disagree with our black president. Meanwhile, whites are afraid to speak out against our black president for fear of being called racist. Dear Lord, what is going on in our country?
Patriot brothers and sisters, the bottom line is that while I am not advocating rudeness or bad behavior, it is time we stand up and be more confrontational for our freedoms, liberty, and culture. Prayerfully ask God for wisdom regarding the proper timing and approach. But we must start confronting Obama-ites with the truth. We cannot allow ourselves to be silenced for fear of being called racist and other threats.
Admittedly, this will be uncomfortable. But many before us have sacrificed all for America. America is worth a little discomfort. My prayers, love, and support are with you. God bless.
– Lloyd Marcus, proud unhyphenated American
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Spokesperson/Entertainer of Tea Party Movement & Tea Party Express
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Author of Confessions of a Black Conservative, foreword by Michelle Malkin
President, NAACPC (National Association for the Advancement of Conservative People of ALL Colors)
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By Michael McDunnah

The McCain-Palin campaign and the Republican National Committee (RNC) spent the better part of the fall screaming about alleged "voter registration fraud," and to this day the GOP and the right-wing media machine continue to raise the specter of voter registration shenanigans that are somehow undermining the integrity of American elections. Now, after months of reckless invective and fruitless investigations, incontrovertible facts have been admitted in court, and someone has finally been convicted of voter registration fraud.

Fraud did take place in the 2008 election--conducted for, and paid for by, the Republican Party.
The Los Angeles Times reported Tuesday evening that Mark Anthony Jacoby, owner of a for-profit group called Young Political Majors (YPM), pled guilty to voter registration fraud in Los Angeles. Brad Freidman of the BradBlog has been keeping tabs on Jacoby for months, and wrote yesterday:

"Jacoby and Young Political Majors were hired by the California Republican Party to head up their voter registration efforts in the state. Jacoby had been arrested for Voter Registration Fraud last October, smack dab during the media's orgasmic heights of last year's phony GOP ACORN "Voter Fraud" hoax, even as Fox "News" (and the other news outlets who similarly fell for the scam) were going wall-to-wall with their unsupported insinuations about voter fraud by ACORN, Democrats and Obama."

......came after dozens of voters said they were duped into registering as Republicans by people employed by YPM. The voters said YPM workers tricked them by saying they were signing a petition to toughen penalties against child molesters."

According to the Times, "YPM has been accused of using bait-and-switch tactics across the country. Election officials and lawmakers have launched investigations into the activities of YPM workers in Florida and Massachusetts. In Arizona, the firm was recently a defendant in a civil rights
lawsuit." (In what was perhaps an attempt to define "irony" for the press, the state GOP issued a statement last fall calling the charges against Jacoby "politically motivated.")

Jacoby pled guilty Tuesday to personally lying on his voter registration forms to register at phony addresses in order to collect petitions. (California law requires petitioners to be qualified voters.) The Associated Press reports that, according to the District Attorney's Office, "two felony counts of perjury and one felony count of voter registration fraud were dismissed under the deal." Jacoby was sentenced to three-years probation and 30-days of community service.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2008/oct/13/election-acorn-voter-fraud

Here are the facts. Acorn verifies the legitimacy of every registration its canvassers collect. If they can't authenticate the registration, or it's incomplete or questionable in other ways, they flag that form as problematic ("fraudulent", "incomplete", et cetera). They then hand in all registration forms, even the problematic ones, to elections officials, as they are required to do by law. In almost every case where you've heard about fraud by Acorn, it's because Acorn itself notified officials about the fraud that's been perpetrated on them by rogue canvassers. Most officials who run to the media screaming "Acorn is committing fraud" know all of the above but don't bother to share those facts with the media they've run to. None of this is about voter fraud. None of it. Where any fraud has occurred, it's voter registration fraud and has resulted in exactly zero fraudulent votes.

You'll hear that Donald Duck, Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy, Mickey Mouse and (new this year) the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys football team have all had fraudulent registrations submitted in their names. That's true. And we know this, why? Because Acorn told officials about it when they followed the law and turned in those registrations, flagged as fraudulent.

What you won't hear is that federal law requires anybody who does not register to vote in person at the county office to show an ID when they go to vote the first time. So, unless Donald Duck shows up with his ID, he won't be voting this November. You needn't worry, no matter how much even John McCain himself cynically and dishonourably tries to mislead you...

....as it's served to distract from very real concerns about tens of thousands of voters who have been illegally purged from the voting rolls in dozens of states, as the New York Times reported in a remarkable front page investigative story. That story followed a report the week before from CBS News detailing still more wholesale purges of voting rolls in some 20 states.

That will be the November surprise, when thousands, if not millions show up to vote only to find they are no longer welcome to do so and are forced to vote on a "provisional ballot" which may or may not be counted.

These real concerns of election fraud, such as voting roll purges, electronic voting machines that don't work and so much more that actually matters, have been obscured by the smoke and mirrors and sleight of hand of the Republican party's phoney Acorn voter fraud charade.

And where they can, they'll parlay it all into new photo ID restrictions at the polls (knowing full well that some 20m, largely Democratic-leaning voters don't own the type of ID they'd need to jump over that next Republican hurdle.)

Yet, with all of the unsubstantiated, wholly bogus claims of voter fraud being carried out by Democrats, there remains at least one case of absolutely ironclad, documented, yet still-unprosecuted case of voter fraud that, for some reason, Republicans don't much like to talk about.

We can only wonder why.

Every criminal says they are innocent. blah.

John McCain paid $175,000 of campaign money to a Republican operative accused of massive voter registration fraud in several states, it has emerged.

As the McCain camp attempts to tie Barack Obama to claims of registration irregularities by the activist group ACORN, campaign finance records detailing the payment to the firm of Nathan Sproul, investigated several times for fraud, threatens to derail that argument.

The documents show that a joint committee of the McCain-Palin campaign, the Republican National Committee and the California Republican Party, made the payment to Lincoln Strategy, of which Mr Sproul is the managing partner, for the purposes of “voter registration”.

Mr Sproul has been investigated on numerous occasions for preventing Democrats from voting, destroying registration forms and leading efforts to get Ralph Nader on ballots to leach the Democratic vote.....

...he career of Mr Sproul, a former leader of the Arizona Republican Party, is littered with accusations of foul play. In Minnesota in 2004, his firm was accused of sacking workers who submitted Democratic registration forms, while other canvassers were allegedly paid bonuses for registering Bush voters. There were similar charges in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Oregon and Nevada.

That year, Mr Sproul’s firm was paid $8,359,161 by the Republican Party, according to a 2005 article in the Baltimore Chronicle, which claimed that this was far more than what had been reported to the Federal Elections Commission.

....In May this year, both ACORN and Mr Sproul were discussed at a hearing of the House subcommittee on commercial and administrative law. One Republican member, Congressman Chris Cannon, concluded: "The difference between ACORN and Sproul is that ACORN doesn't throw away or change registration documents after they have been filled out."

in 2006 both houses of Congress went majority Democrat. From then to the end of this year, a mere four years, federal debt held by the public will have grown from about $5 trillion$(37% of GDP) to almost $9 trillion (60% of GDP). At the same time, unemployment more than doubled, from 4.4% to 9.5%.

Deal with that fact libs.

...........Approve Disapprove
Obama 47.1% .... 47.1%

From today's FOX news website!!!!!

Your stats are misleading...as is your usual:

These data are based on Gallup Daily tracking interviews conducted the week of June 28-July 4.

Over the past year, Obama has lost support among all party groups, though the decline has been steeper among independents than among Republicans or Democrats. Today's 38% approval rating among independents is 18 percentage points lower than the 56% found July 6-12, 2009. During the same period, his support has fallen nine points among Democrats (from 90% to 81%) and eight points among Republicans (from 20% to 12%).

Overall, 46% of Americans approve of the job Obama is doing as president in the June 28-July 4 aggregate, one point above his lowest weekly average. Obama's average weekly job approval rating has not been above 50% since Feb. 8-14, though it reached the 50% mark as recently as May 3-9.

Obama's lower ratings come amid a still-struggling economy, the ongoing difficulties presented by the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and the recent change of command in the war in Afghanistan. Underscoring the challenge at hand, Obama's 44% approval rating in July 2-5 polling (Gallup did not interview July 4) ties his lowest three-day average to date.

Bottom Line

Obama is not alone in facing a challenging second year in office -- Bill Clinton (43%), Ronald Reagan (42%), and Jimmy Carter (40%) all were below the majority approval level in July of their second year. Of course, each of those presidents saw his party lose a substantial number of seats in that year's midterm congressional elections, though both Reagan and Clinton recovered in time to win a second term as president.

Most Americans who supported Obama are reluctant to abandon him at this point. But MANY supporters are beginning to question his competence. Some former supporters are outright turning their backs on Obama. And as the country continues to struggle, as massive spending continues, as unemployment rises, and as more and more controversies come to light within the DNC, the downward trend of support for Obama will likely continue. Look for the Democrats to FORCE through as many policy changes as they can as they betray the US even more.

The meaning of conservatism in America has little in common with the way the word is used in the rest of the world. Since the 1890s conservatism has been chiefly associated with the Republican Party, though in the era of segregation the Southern Democrats, known as the Dixicrats, were conservative.[9][10][11]

Core conservative issues in the 21st century include reduced government regulation of business, resistance to world government and to environmentalism, opposition to abortion and homosexuality, support for Christian education in the public schools[12], support for the right to bear arms, securing the U.S borders, and strict enforcement of the law[13]. Conservatives emphasize their patriotism and claim to share the beliefs of the Founding Fathers. Many say that America is a Christian nation.[14]

The modern conservative movement is often identified with the ideas in Russell Kirk's The Conservative Mind, published in 1953.[15] In 1955, William F. Buckley, Jr. founded National Review, a conservative magazine that included traditionalists, such as Kirk, along with Roman Catholics, certain groups of libertarians, and anti-communists. In the 1970s moral issues—especially regarding abortion, sexuality and the family—became politically prominent and conservatives staked out distinctive positions, often with grassroots support from religious organizations such as the Moral Majority. This bringing together of separate ideologies under a conservative umbrella was known as "fusionism".

Modern conservatism became a major political force in 1964, when Barry Goldwater, a U.S. Senator from Arizona and author of The Conscience of a Conservative (1960), won the Republican presidential nomination after a fierce contest. He lost badly in the national election but permanently shifted the party to the right.

Think tanks

In 1971 Lewis F. Powell Jr. urged conservatives to retake command of public discourse by "financing think tanks, reshaping mass media and seeking influence in universities and the judiciary." In the coming decades policies once considered outside the mainstream consensus—abolishing welfare, privatizing Social Security, deregulating banking, embracing preemptive war—were taken seriously and sometimes passed into law thanks to the work of the Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute, the Fox News Network, as well as numerous corporate lobbying organizations and university professorships.

BBC compares 3 polls with an average +/- of 3% on accuracy.

Obama opinion ratings approx 50%... about the same as the Fox poll.

Average poll size.. about 1500

(V): Who ever said Fox was just about the news? You're living in lala land. Why do you make so many strawmen? Can you not form an argument based on something that is actually true?

never mind. I already know the answer.

Most Transparent Administration Ever Makes Effective Reporting from Gulf a Felony
by Lachlan Markay
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Effectively reporting on the Gulf oil spill is now a Class D felony, punishable by a fine of up to $40,000.

That's right, the most transparent administration in history has made it a felony, effective July 1, to get within 65 feet of what the Coast Guard determines are essential recovery efforts. According to Anderson Cooper, officials tried to up that number to 300 feet.

Cooper, who claimed federal officials prevented CNN on two occasions from taking photographs in the gulf, seemed frustrated when he reported on the new laws the day they went into effect. The press is "not the enemy here" he pleaded. The new policies, he said, make it "very easy to hide failure, and hide incompetence."

I probably won't get any responses but what do you US liberals think of this policy? I know that if it were Fox complaining you'd side with Obama. But hey, it's CNN.

(V):  Ironically, Barry Goldwater denounced what you call modern conservatism in his later year - especially on social issues.

Public confidence in President Obama has hit a new low, according to the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll. Four months before midterm elections that will define the second half of his term, nearly six in 10 voters say they lack faith in the president to make the right decisions for the country, and a clear majority once again disapproves of how he is dealing with the economy.

Regard for Obama is still higher than it is for members of Congress, but the gap has narrowed. About seven in 10 registered voters say they lack confidence in Democratic lawmakers and a similar proportion say so of Republican lawmakers.........

...Independents -- that amorphous body that usually determines elections -- are continuing to migrate away from the Democratic Party. That party is increasingly identified by its leaders: Pelosi, Reid and Obama. They are to the left of many members of the party, but have dragged other party members who have done their bidding for them off the cliff, as well. Many more people identify themselves as conservatives than liberals......

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Artful Dodger: I agree that many Americans consider themselves consrvatives, but they also consider themselves disinfranchised, because the present Republican form of conservativism isn't, and hasn't been for years

Jim Dandy: This is precisely why many incumbent Republicans are targets for replacement. Big spending and Conservatism don't go together and it's true that the Republicans have seriously lost their way.

Artful Dodger: I don't know if the Tea Party is a good example of Republicans finding their way, if that is who you feel are doing the targeting. Sharron Angle, what do you think of her?

Jim Dandy: What precisely is wrong with the Tea Party movement? I've read what they stand for and it's clearly the core values of historic conservatism.

Jim Dandy: I don't know much about Sharron Angle. She's not the tea party.

Breitbart Exposes the ‘N Word’ Lie on Hannity
by Larry O'Connor
Andrew Breitbart appeared on the ‘Hannity’ show tonight to discuss the NAACP’s resolution condemning the Tea Party Movement as racist. The NAACP used the dubious claims of Rep. Andre Carson, that fifteen protestors yelled racial slurs at him fifteen times on March 20th prior to a vote on ObamaCare in Washington DC.

Breitbart conducted a search of all available video of the moment Rep. Carson described – as he and Rep. John Lewis “came down the steps at (the) Cannon” Office Building on their way to the Capitol.

This segment on ‘Hannity’ marks the very first time these videos, which show no evidence of anyone shouting racial slurs and which contradict every description Rep. Carson made of the scene, have been shown on national television.

Given that this false charge has become the basis for the nation’s oldest and most respected civil rights organization to label an entire political movement as racist, it will be instructive to see which other media outlets pick up the story as well.


For their convenience, we will be happy to make all of the the unedited videos available for them

100,000 dollars have been offered for ANYONE that can show video where someone yelled the "n" word at a the Tea Party Rally. NO ONE has come forward to collect.

The liberals simply lied once again. And the NAACP is playing the race card, again. Identity politics. Shameful

Artful Dodger: Sharron Angle is considered "Mrs. Tea Party" , you should check her out

Ferris Bueller: Aye.. I read that it changed since the 60's and then again in the 80's under Raygun. As did the the voting of the southern states from Democrats to Republican. It seems modern USA conservatives (such as tea party fanatics) have put idiology over their country.

You can't go back in time and think 'X' is right as the world has changed. The lines as defined under the cold war period have gone.

Jim Dandy: The tea party movement will just cause the GOP to be a non entity regarding major elections. The Democrats must be laughing at the infighting over who's a better conservative. Just like happened in the USSR under Stalin and any other movement that has sought to micro analysis what it is to be a good party member.

(V): While I can't see the Republicans become a "non entity regarding major elections"
The current witch hunt will not have a happy ending IMO

Jim Dandy: Witch hunts never end up good... McCarthyism is a prime example. I say non entity as we in the UK have witnessed a party having two or more go for being elected as an MP.. It splits the vote. The Republicans might end up fighting a tea party favourite therefore losing out entirely to the Democrats.

Jim Dandy: I've checked her out a little. I'm not seeing a major story here. Aside from a few remarks that some found objectionable, she's a politician. She's NOT the Tea Party. She IS a Tea Party favorite. Lower taxes, support small business growth (the real backbone of the US economy) smaller government, State's rights, adherence to the Constitution - sounds good to me.

Jim Dandy: What you call a witch hunt is what political parties do all day long. They find the chink in the armor of an opponent and they go after that. Democrats, Republicans, Whateverans, they ALL do it.

The NAACP just passed a resolution against the Tea Party. Are they on a witch hunt?

To be on a witch hunt, you have to be looking for issues/problems that don't exist. In Salem, they were looking for witches which some there were only happy to help find. Even if that meant lying (which most did if not all). The Tea Party is not a a witch hunt. They are a political group exercising their Constitutional right to participate in the political process. And consistent with that right is their right to oppose candidates that don't represent their views. Additionally, they have the right to actively oppose those politicians with campaigns to defeat those they oppose and put in place those with whom they agree. This is what ALL parties do.

So what is wrong with that? Simply calling something a witch hunt explains nothing. It's a lazy way to have a discussion. He's a liar. She's a racist. They are on a witch hunt. What the hell kind of argument are those lazy statements? They say nothing unless backed with a rational and well formulated argument with examples and explanations. You've given the former and totally avoided the latter.

What makes your statements against the Tea Party any less of a witch hunt as you put it?

Artful Dodger: Sharron caused a stir with her position against abortion even in cases of rape and incest

Jim Dandy: .. I can see why that would cause a stir. Especially in the case of incest.. genetically that is a most unsafe prospect.. and what if the kid is adopted on and then wants to find out it's real parents.

(V): Well,these positions aside, as AD pointed out, she's a Tea Party fave, and has been labled "Mrs. Tea Party"

Jim Dandy: She'll never throw as good as one as the Queen's tea parties!! If they want to do something... end the lobbying system. But that has to be a national campaign transcending party lines.

When Blair lied and led Parliament into the war millions marched despite party as one.

Tuesday: If God didn't want abortions.. why does The I AM allow miscariages to happen, still borns and bad mutations? In some respects we do not show the same respect that we do to animals in the name of a collection of words often mistranslated and used. God breathed life into clay.. clay did not make life.

(V): Ending lobbying would go a long way towards putting the power back with the people who elect.Obama has not been helpful in this regard

Jim Dandy: No-one has. They are to afraid to face down the big corporations and lose out on the gravy train that comes after being in office. We have the problem in the UK even though there are regs and laws to stop such if caught.

(V): Well,that's where Obama loses me, if he had no intention of dealing with issues such as lobbying, he should have kept his mouth shut on the campaign trail.He has actually broadened the ability for major corporations to spend on campaigns, not limited them