Tuesday:  Either she or her PR firm are brilliant at using symbolism to resonate with her base.  Substance means very little if you can tap into people's collective unconscious - especially during hard times.  If she is a loon, she has some pretty big weapons if she can capture the Conservative psyche.  I now have a better understanding into the rabid popularity among her followers.  I wouldn't underestimate it.  That isn't to say I have any agreement with her.

Tuesday: It's Annie Oakley syndrome

Show Me State Shows Obamacare the Door — In a Rout!
by Jim Hoft
MISSOURI VOTERS REJECT OBAMACARE!

Prop C passes in Missouri!

Over 70% of voters reject the democrat’s nationalized health care plan.

The Century Of Self :

The story of the relationship between Sigmund Freud and his American nephew, Edward Bernays. Bernays invented the public relations profession in the 1920s and was the first person to take Freud's ideas to manipulate the masses. He showed American corporations how they could make people want things they didn't need by systematically linking mass-produced goods to their unconscious desires.

............ watch it on youtube...................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dA89CBBOC0

Artful Dodger:  The people of MO must really know how to vote against their self-interests.  What does the vote accomplish anyway?

Updated: 2010-08-03 22:09:29
To the Editor,

I am writing this letter concerning the voting process in the state of Missouri. Therefore, I am writing to the people of Missouri and every state in the United States, if your state is like mine.

I went to vote today and when I got there I was told that I had to vote Republican if I wanted to vote for those running for state offices, Democrat if I wanted to vote for local races in Kennett, MO. They also had an Independent and Conservative ballot, all having Proposition C on them.

I was enraged. I was being told that I had to vote a certain way. People, it is our right as citizens of this country to vote for whom we want and not which party ballot we have to use. The state of Missouri legislators are the ones that set the rule that voting ballots are to be set up in this fashion. You have to believe their tactic in doing this is that they know many people will want to vote in the local election; therefore, they will be sure that the people they want in office will be elected to run in the general election or win the general election.

Well, needless to say, I DID NOT VOTE TODAY. This is the first election I have refused to vote in since I started voting and I am 57 years old. I will not be told which party or whom I can or cannot vote for, whether it is a primary or

general election. IT IS MY RIGHT AND YOURS TO VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE WE FEEL IS BEST SUITED FOR THE JOB! I know I cannot complain if who I think is the wrong person for the job gets into office or gets to be on the ballot in the general election.

This law must be changed! In my opinion, all names should be on one ballot, whether Republican, Democrat, Independent, or conservative on one state ballot and one local ballot. Moreover, if the names are on a state ballot and on a local ballot, we as voters should be able to use both of them if we choose to.

I know that voting has been this way for some time, but I am sick and tired of it. Why have we let the state take our right to vote as we see fit away from us? The voters of Missouri and other states need to think about this. Remember it is our constitutional right to vote as we feel.

Thank you,
Amenda Alexander
Kennett, MO

But Kansan voters, particularly Republican ones, should have the hottest fire under their feet on primary day. In the land of sunflowers and prairie dogs, Republicans outnumber Democrats two-to-one, which often makes July's GOP primary winner a near-lock for victory in November. Case in point: the Senate seat up for grabs has been held by a Republican since 1932 -- i.e., the days when Joan Rivers was in utero. With Sen. Sam Brownback giving up his spot to go gubernatorial, Congressman Todd Tiahrt--who, despite the troubling lack of vowels in his name, managed to get the Sarah Palin stamp--squared off against fellow congressman Jerry Moran, who joined Rep. Michelle Bachmann's caucus. Moran pulled through with the win, 160,000 to 140,000 votes, showing again that neither Tea Party-backing nor the wave of the Alaskan wand are infallibles.

Other Kansas highlights including the primary success of Democrat Stephene Moore, a nurse and the wife of retiring Rep. Dennis Moore, who seems set to face Kevin Yoder (the expected winner out of nine GOP hopefuls) in her attempt to be the first wife to survive a living member of Congress. And Brownback predictably won his gubernatorial primary, with a more-than-healthy 82% of the vote.

In the neighboring state of Missouri, voters weighed in on Proposition C, the first state challenge to the individual mandate contained in the new health-care reform law. Although the vote was more about political bragging rights than anything, given that the courts will have to decide on whether the referendum can trump federal law, the anti-“Obamacare” contingent got a big win. Only 29% voted that the state have to comply with the federal mandate, while 71% percent voted to exempt the Show-Me state. (As per the nickname, they clearly don't take things lying down.) The amount of voters casting a ballot for this -- nigh 1 million -- by far dwarfed the amount coming out to have a say in any other contest, by a margin of hundreds of thousands.

Other Missouri highlights: veteran Rep. Ike Skelton won his primary in Missouri's Fourth District, though the tough part will be keeping his seat in November. His opponent, state Rep. Vicky Hartzler, emerged from a field of nine candidates, though Ike must like that she'll be damaged a bit from all the infighting that led up the primary. Rep. Roy Blunt and Secretary of State Robin Carnahan, the two political-family candidates expected to win their senate primaries, did so, both with more than 70% of the vote. It should be a fiery match up, like two families in The Godfather going to the mattresses -- though Carnahan should be concerned that she racked up far fewer votes (265,000) than Blunt (410,000)

Read more:
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/08/04/heartland-primary-watch/?xid=rss-topstories#ixzz0vfdwi72J

(V):  Good post.  From products to politics, we care less about the facts.  Our gut level emotions are paramount.  Facts are manipulated to play on feelings.  Propaganda really does work on the masses.

Ferris Bueller: how are they voiting against self interests?

Ferris Bueller: Interesting in Palin's/tea party talk it's about "conservatives" seemingly like being a Republican has gone out of fashion. Also that Palin is aiming at "conservative women" .. implying that "conservative" children are at risk if they don't act. The target (as in the government) gut reaction probably dates back to us British and other European govs reinforced by years of brainwashing over communism through incorrect and distorted facts, yet easily absorbed fear.

... I saw on the GOP site they are blaming Obama for the oil disaster, again relying on the BiG GoVeRnMent big bad wolf subconcious conditioning to carry the message despite that it is a lie.

Propaganda is a dangerous and risky political tool. It has a tendency to backfire and create pockets of extreme emotional responses. In the end.. who will define what is a "conservative".. that no-one of the conservative element on this board can or will define that suggests that they are being led rather than free thinking and why some just don't and cannot get the "conservative" message.

.. We can feel our guts being manipulated.

(V): Are you suggesting that "the other side" doesn't "manipulate guts"?

Tuesday: You liked it!!

Tuesday: No guts no glory. It's funny.

Tuesday:

Artful Dodger: that is hilarious....I loved it. Do you know how those vids can be saved....that is worth passing around>

Bernice: http://alieneyes.wordpress.com/2006/10/18/downloadsaverecord-youtube-videos/

HOW are they voting against their self-interests.

And

40,000 Democrats - more than one in every eight Democratic primary voters - voted against the centerpiece of President Obama's health-care plan. And these aren't just any registered Democrats; these are the party activists, the Democratic base."

There is no enthusiasm for the Health Nazification Act, and even the bluest of blue electorates could not be bothered to take fifteen minutes out of their day to support it. Oh, and 15% of ballots cast for Democrat Robin Carnahan in the election supported Prop C.

August 6, 2010
Randall Hoven
"No law or rule shall compel, directly or indirectly, any person, employer, or health care provider to participate in any health care system. A person or employer may pay directly for lawful health care services and shall not be required by law or rule to pay penalties or fines for paying directly for lawful health care services. A health care provider may accept direct payment for lawful health care services and shall not be required by law or rule to pay penalties or fines for accepting direct payment from a person or employer for lawful health care services." Partial wording of Proposition C, which passed in Missouri, August 3, 2010.

The Other Side of Shirley Sherrod<span>.

Artful Dodger: awwwwww...fankeee......I always knew you weren't just a purty face

rod03801: Not as much from what I've seen. The style of political banter seems to be less aggressive and also less about fear and more about policy.

You've got to understand Rod I live in a country where buying a Cuban cigar is not illegal. We were not taught to fear a USSR missile attack, but nuclear war full stop whoever started it. As we in the UK and Europe were screwed whoever started it. Europe especially was toast through short range and tactical nuclear weapons.

Communism was never made illegal here. We didn't have a McCarthy. Political freedom has and is protected as long as you do not break the law.

Artful Dodger: Uhhh no they are not. Voting seems to be pretty split down the middle. It seems to be known (so I read) ....


..."Missouri has been known for its population's generally "stalwart, conservative, noncredulous" attitude toward regulatory regimes, which is one of the origins of the state's unofficial nickname, the "Show-Me State."".........

40,000 is one in eight?? Over 1.4 million people voted for the Democrats in 2008, just a few thousand less then the Republican party got.

I think it is probably right.............

***QUOTE OF THE CENTURY,,,,
Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out:


"The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."***

Bernice: He is a man?

Bernice:

Bernice: Do you know whose quote it is?

Pedro Martínez: no Im sorry I don't I CCP'd it from another f/ship....but isnt it clever ROFL.....

Bernice: I love it… and I'd love to know who said that. It doesn't sound like any Czech politician I know, lol. I'll try to google it.

This is the header to the copy I got of this email:
"The Prager Zeitung is a German newspaper in the Czech Republic issued weekly in Prague. It is the largest non-Czech newspaper published in the Czech Republic ."

And in addition was this:
" This quote was translated into English an article appearing in the Czech Republic as published in the Prager Zeitung of 28 April 2010 . "

If you search using the Prager Zeitung, all the links you get to Sean Hannity say the article was published on 4/28, but if you search just the quote, the quote shows up on the respectable periodical, gunbroker.com, in January. Did the "anonymous" author send it telepathically to some dude on gunbroker.com or something??? It then appears on godlikeproductions.com in February in a slightly modified form.

You can't even find a link in translated German anywhere, or anything remotely close to it on pragerzeitung which you should be able to easily detect even with German language skills as retarded as mine.

Sorry. Someone pulled this article out of their ***. This article doesn't exist and isn't even information. There should be no more responses to this thread except to ridicule the author.

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It really doesn't matter if a Czech paper, Hannity, Rush, Maher, or Fox News wrote the quote in MY OPINION it hits the nail on the head.

Only leftist fools educated in government schools think otherwise.
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Yes, it does. It matters very much. Falsifying information sources is a big deal.

You can't pass something like this off, praise the specific source, then backpedal and say the source doesn't matter when it's shown to be false. It shows whatever sources you are relying on are, at best, it's really, really bad journalism. At worst, they're willing to put their ideology above the truth and intentionally falsify facts to further their agenda.

Bernice: The best I could find on it was that it's a quote from a Czech newspaper - author unknown. Every source I found said it was from the Czech Republic but I suspect they found a posted copy with the same claim and it spread from there. It is right on however. It describes Obama perfectly.

Bernice: The video was funny. The guy is an American with a very bad Aussie accent. He's just poking fun at people who criticize the US. I thought it was quite funny. lol I particularly liked his number one reason: Because they do a bad job pretending to have an Australian accent. That's exactly what he was doing in the video. He had me rolling!

Tuesday: Yes the pics were pretty cool.

Tuesday: Made far far worse from policies of FDR.

Nancy Pelosi claimed on ABC's This Week,

"We [Democrats] are very proud of the agenda that we have put forth to the American people..."

Yet, her Democrat puppets in Congress are refusing to face the American people when they return to their districts. Instead, they are running for cover. To date, few vulnerable Democrat Members of Congress have committed to engage their constituents face to face this August.

6 are holding townhall meetings. 69 are NOT. So how proud are they?

Artful Dodger: "It describes Obama perfectly."
it also describes the American liberal.

Bwild: Particularly the progressive left. Obama was elected on style and performance and not on substance. Bush didn't help. A vote for Obama was a vote against another Bush (McCain).

Artful Dodger: the green party just keeps looking better and better.

Bwild:

or Green Tea Party

Rachel Maddow Edits 'Factor' Video to Make Bill O'Reilly Look Racist
by Noel Sheppard
Rachel Maddow on Friday highly-edited a video from the previous evening's "O'Reilly Factor" in order to make the Fox News host look racist.

For some background, Bill O'Reilly wrote a syndicated column Friday in which he chastized Maddow and David Letterman for "without a shred of evidence" claiming on CBS's "Late Show" Tuesday that FNC intentionally runs stories about "scary black people" in order to frighten white folks into voting for conservatives.

Maddow responded by calling this "bullpucky," and presented video "evidence" from "Factor" programs to prove that this indeed is what Fox does.

Open Thread: Michelle O's Lavish Taxpayer Funded Vacation During Recession
by NB Staff
For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: the First Lady is spending beaucoup bucks on lavish vacations while the country is mired in what her husband calls the worst economic slowdown since the Great Depression!

Michelle Obama today faced a fresh wave of attacks over her lavish break in Spain with 40 friends, which could easily cost U.S. taxpayers a staggering £50,000 a day. The First Lady has been lambasted for her extravagance at a time when the economy is still struggling. One blogger went so far as to brand her a modern-day Marie Antoinette. And her critics will be further annoyed when they learn that the president's wife had a Spanish beach closed off today so that she, her daughter and their entourage could go for a swim