Czuch:

> they have never once given any consideration to republican ideas or amendments

If that were true, the American government would have been completely paralized during the Bush administration!

> the reality that most average people dont understand, is that there are many hidden
> things in the democrats plans, plans that on the serface seem like plans we can
> all embrace, but that when republicans try to add things to make sure certain bad
> elements dont happen, they get squished like tiny bugs by the democrats in charge.

And the Republicans NEVER did that when they were in charge?

> I personally dont know tiny details.... but you could tell by the reaction, when Bam
> said that "no ilegal aliens would benefit from our health care system" thats when i
> think the guy said "lies"

I imagine they could do what we have here in Alberta, Canada. Everyone get a healthcare card. Without the card you get no service. Illegal immigrants cannot get cards and tourists have to present travel insurance, or pay up front. That takes care of much of the problem.

Simply deny service to illegals. People will say "what do you do with the thousands of people who illegally enter to work and get sick?" I would answer: Legalize them all and let them pay taxes like everyone else. Then they qualify for healthcare services. Canada did that starting in the 80s. The government liberalized much of the immigration policy and a lot of illegal immigrants became legalized. I know of at least three cases and those people are now tax payers like myself.

> the democrats are not willing to compromise at all with many of the republicans
> concerns

At this point the only way healthcare reform will fly is if Democrats compromise with Republicans. I am sure that keeping George W. Bush's tax cuts in place will be on the cards. Republicans will use this issue to ensure that there is no rolling back of those cuts, as well as issues such as gun control, defense spending and foreign policy against the rising left in Latin America.