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8. Aŭgusto 2009, 17:25:18
Übergeek 바둑이 
Temo: Re: China and change
(V):

Consumer capitalism has fallen into a system of discardable items that are meant to last for a few years. In that way consumers must constantly keep replacing what they buy every few years.

If we go back a few years, say the 1970s, people would have thought it was stupid to buy a piece of electronics (like a calculator) only to replace it or throw it away in two or three years. Now we routinely buy cell phones, MP3 players, etc., and we know that after two or three years they will be "obsolete".

There was a time when people would reuse everything. My grandmother would wash plastic bags and reuse them over and over until they were in tatters and could not be used any more.

15 years ago a computer would cost $3000-4000 (at least 2000 pounds in the UK). If you had told those consumers that their computer would be obsolete in six months, they would have refused to buy them. Now computers are cheap and there are so many old computers that we don't know what to do with all that plastic.

Plastic windows became popular (at least here in Canada) because they are more energy efficient. Plastic is a poor transmitter of heat compared to metal, so in our cold weather plastic windows make sense. However, they last less. It used to be that brick and mortar was the preferred way to build homes. Here in Canada the construction industry shifted to plywood and particle board. It is more energy efficient, but after 30 or 40 years homes literally fall apart. Brick lasts centuries. Companies like Home Depot have made billions by convincing home owners to replace or renovate homes with materials that will need to be replaced in a few years.

I think it is environmentally unsustainable. The more garbage we make, the more pressure there will be to find a place to put that garbage. Shipping it to India might be OK for industrialized nations trying to sweep the problem under the carpet, but sooner or later all that garbage will come back to haunt everyone, just like Radon gas in homes built over covered landfills.

8. Aŭgusto 2009, 17:38:27
Mort 
Temo: Re: China and change
Übergeek 바둑이: I only chuck stuff away that no longer has function, I only update as necessary. The PC is by nature of some computer boffins research expected to double in capability about the two year mark... but most can be updated, (even better if you have a good 2nd hand computer store nearby with loads of bits from deconstructions) so they can last a long time.

It all boils down to whether you take care of your gadgets or not. Yes, as a matter of fact some gadgets will no longer have function, as in eg.. not the capacity to run new programs due to speed specifications. But there will always be bits that can be salvaged and reused or sold on.

Bricks and mortar are still preferred here... traditional. The only new scheme is to use breeze blocks as the inner wall (or concrete in flats) to save time and give better strength. Yet.... still there is daft schemes advertising "house guaranteed for 10 years".

Here in the UK now we have street level recycling due to a two bin and glass collection system as part of the bin run. Compost heaps are an old favourite as well The gutter water barrel is more and more used.

But the country is still a work in progress!!

9. Aŭgusto 2009, 04:38:25
Czuch 
Temo: Re: China and change
(V): The only new scheme is to use breeze blocks as the inner wall


as a plaster/paint contractor, i want to know more about what is a breeze block?

9. Aŭgusto 2009, 05:24:31
Bernice 
Temo: Re: China and change
Czuch: having been married to a plasterer/tiler....a breeze block is a block with holes in it....lets the air through

http://www.besserblockcentre.com.au/newsite/html/screen_blocks.html

9. Aŭgusto 2009, 13:52:55
Mort 
Temo: Re: China and change
Bernice: This is the kind I was referring to..

http://johncottam.com/Picture%20413a.jpg

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