http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6147211/Barack-Obama-accused-of-making-Depression-mistakes.html

GTCharlie:  Obama will go down in history as one of the most incompetent and dishonest presidents ever in US politics.

Artful Dodger: I always like reading the member comment section for these articles,, some are pretty funny,

GTCharlie: I like this member comment...

"Why is everybody blaming Obama? He has been in office for 8 months. It is the disasterous policies of the Bush administration that have this country on life support. Obama is doing his best to contend with a patient (the USA) with multisystem organ failure caused by greed and deception over decades but magnified by bush and his people!"

(V): How about the one calling him "dear leader", or the one from the chinese article saying" Don't worry China. We will print PLENTY of money so there will be enough for everyone!"

GTCharlie: Well... unfortunately Obama inherited alot of problems from the Bush administration. As for Dear leader...

"FDR was responsible for killing 400,000 American soldiers in WWII."

I guess the axis forces just sat at home name calling then.

.... As for printing money... In small doses that is fine, inflation is effected by more then just printing money. Ya just don't want the policy of Germany after WWI.

And as for the first article you posted... "The study represents a challenge to the widely held view that Keynesian fiscal policies helped the US recover from the Depression which started in the early 1930s."

This is the point of who knows!! WWII intervened with the ability to have the authors of the article having a clear case and argument.

Artful Dodger: Will he beat Raygun and Bush II??

What about Nixon??

(V):   In just a few months Obama has managed to increase the crisis he "inherited" and he's on his way to making it worse.  History shows that his ideas are NOT new and they've failed in the past.  Obama is a fish out of water.  He has no plan.  Only ideas.  And he doesn't have a clue as to how to impliment them.

Artful Dodger: When does history show this? As I said, the great depression does not count

(V):  It doesn't matter according to you but you're no expert so I'll dismiss your comments on that score.

and the progressive movement has been rejected ever since it's inception.  People don't lean left here, they are mostly centrist.  Obama hasn't figured this out yet because he's surrounded himself with far left loonie progressives.  He's a lame duck already.

Artful Dodger: So, in dismissing my comments, you dismiss the FACT that WWII came at a point that interfered with the data as such to give an accurate assessment of how the dealing with the great depression back then worked or failed? Can you explain how you arrived at this assessment??

The progressive movement seems to have come from Republicans who joined the Democrats as they no longer agreed with the Republican idols... as you know, ideology is a dangerous business.

Yes.. most people are centre in views, neither left or right.. having to choose between two parties who are left or right. That's why the Republican party failed to be re-elected.. Bush and McCain had gone toooooo far right to be fair representatives of the people.

(V):  you aren't very well versed in Us politics or its history.   All the experts agree that the efforts to counter the effects of the depression actually prolonged it.

Artful Dodger: No they don't, that is a complete lie. The 'experts' disagree, and because of WWII they've been arguing (pro repub's and pro demo's) since. AS WWII (I'll say this one more time) interfered with a pure run of data. IF WWII had not happened then there would be the ability to make a full analysis of the great depression.

But WWII did happen.