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27. Septembro 2009, 20:21:49 Perhaps every MSNBC viewer was in the audience for Tuesday's inauguration. That's probably the most favorable explanation for the cable network's dismal showing in the inauguration ratings, where it came in last among all networks and trailed rivals CNN and Fox News in every daypart. For the critical hours of 11AM to 2PM, MSNBC averaged just 2.6 million total viewers, 69 percent lower than Fox News (4.4 million) and 165 percent lower than CNN (6.9 million), according to Nielsen Media Research. For the total day (6AM-3AM), MSNBC averaged 1.7 million total viewers, compared to CNN's 4.0 million and Fox News' 2.5 million. Things weren't any better in the Adults 25-54 demographic, either, where MSNBC usually performs well. CNN won the demo with an average 1.6 million to Fox News' 750,000 and MSNBC's 610,000. Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/21/msnbc-network-that-opened_n_159860.html 27. Septembro 2009, 20:26:15 Temo: Re:  (V): You are so uninformed. The Huffington post is A FAR LEFT BLOG!  27. Septembro 2009, 20:30:33 Temo: Re:he Huffington post is A FAR LEFT BLOG! Artful Dodger: So? Is "Nielsen Media Research."?? Btw.. advertisers on this side of the pond do not want their products associated with Beck. As you said, they are moving their money.  27. Septembro 2009, 20:39:21 Temo: Re:he Huffington post is A FAR LEFT BLOG! (V): I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters 27. Septembro 2009, 20:41:05 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: And? What do you mean by that? 27. Septembro 2009, 20:48:41 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters 27. Septembro 2009, 21:49:38 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: And the point is.. you are saying. That a company does not have the right of freedom? That they cannot say when their products are advertised if they find a particular show distasteful? The law is on their side, the right to choose.  27. Septembro 2009, 21:54:13 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters (V): You still don't get it. The way a boycott works is one group complains and the advertisers respond to the complaints. They are no responding to the show, but to the complainers. Two can play that game. Thousands more are boycotting the boycotters. The law is on our side: Our right to boycott.  27. Septembro 2009, 21:56:42 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: Awwwwwwwwww don't worry, Fox ads are filling the slots... If you are lucky, maybe you'll get an uninterrupted show. 27. Septembro 2009, 22:01:19 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters (V): I'm not worried. In one year the Dems will be out of power as they will be a Repub majority. Obama will have 2 years left of his lame duck presidency. He'll never get reelected. He will lose big time because his ideas are too radical. We need fresh blood in congress. the old guard are out of touch. 27. Septembro 2009, 22:04:25 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: What is radical about having a competitive health care system with no monopolies? What is conservative values.. you've yet to explain that.. they sure do seem to be different from our Conservative Party.  27. Septembro 2009, 22:08:04 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters (V): You have to look at the long term benefits vrs drawbacks. Keep what's working, fix only the broken elements of health care. Nothing the government ever does with regard to social programs works. They all go bankrupt. They are a bunch of incompetents. It will end up costing the US taxpayer far more than most are currently paying. and it's a fact that anyone can get health care treatment in America regardless of the ability to pay. 27. Septembro 2009, 22:14:45 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: Here we go back into fraud, money, big, bankrupt, blah... Do you enjoy paying into a scheme that is based on profit? Big, money, fraud, bankrupt, blah.  27. Septembro 2009, 22:29:39 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters (V): The government is a far worse option. 27. Septembro 2009, 22:44:59 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: Sure.. compared to whom? Show me figures that prove corruption in big companies is better than government... don't forget Madoff, the off shore accounts and other known fraud in your compilation Take your time.. I'm having a cold one. 27. Septembro 2009, 22:47:52 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters (V): We're talking about government insurance. Stick to the subject. 27. Septembro 2009, 22:49:46 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Modifita de Mort (27. Septembro 2009, 22:50:12) Artful Dodger: No. your statement was that government is worse than private in fraud and overpricing. prove it. *burp* 27. Septembro 2009, 22:54:15 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters (V): Wrong again. My words: The government is a far worse option. Nothing the government ever does with regard to social programs works. They all go bankrupt. They are a bunch of incompetents. It will end up costing the US taxpayer far more than most are currently paying. and it's a fact that anyone can get health care treatment in America regardless of the ability to pay. Your false claim: No. your statement was that government is worse than private in fraud and overpricing. See, you've created a strawman. Nice try. But I never said that. You either don't listen or you are deliberately twisting things. Maybe both. Reread what I said. Lay off the beer. 27. Septembro 2009, 22:57:55 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: Why is the government a worse option? Fraud and incompetence are everywhere. I would like to see some figures comparing the fraud and incompetence in business against that in the public sector. Back up your claim. It's your turn to prove things.. I'm always getting the job!! 27. Septembro 2009, 22:59:54 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters (V): Why is the government a worse option? Fraud and incompetence are everywhere.  27. Septembro 2009, 23:02:58 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: Private and public.. ya know my thread. Still no figures. 1000's of building companies here cheating everyone for many many years.. The possibility of no fraud in the private sector is zilch. Prove me wrong!! 27. Septembro 2009, 23:05:42 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: zzzzzzzzzz 27. Septembro 2009, 23:09:09 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Modifita de Mort (27. Septembro 2009, 23:09:26) Artful Dodger: Yeah... I have a night off searching and ask a republican do stand up and prove a point and nothing. stonewalling!! 27. Septembro 2009, 23:10:20 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters (V): Nope.  27. Septembro 2009, 23:12:08 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Modifita de Mort (27. Septembro 2009, 23:12:29) Artful Dodger: Do I have to resort to pantomime talk??  27. Septembro 2009, 23:15:34 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters (V): You could try just being rational. 27. Septembro 2009, 23:17:26 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: I was.. asking you to use ya fingers.. or is it 'liberals' that are the only ones to prove something??   27. Septembro 2009, 23:22:05 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters (V): There's nothing to prove. I never made the claim you challenged. And you of all people don't get a pass on the "show me" request. I think your favorite reply on this is: I've already explained that. 27. Septembro 2009, 23:25:41 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: You said.. "Nothing the government ever does with regard to social programs works. They all go bankrupt." I said... "Sure.. compared to whom? Show me figures that prove corruption in big companies is better than government... don't forget Madoff, the off shore accounts and other known fraud in your compilation." You are stating nothing the government does works? or just the bits you don't like.. I heard you can't cuddle a bag of money and get love!! 27. Septembro 2009, 23:38:00 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters (V):Madoff was involved in social programs???  27. Septembro 2009, 23:42:04 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: Help the aged was. And that does not prove anything. Your health companies have policies to cancel policies over silly reasons.... "you can't have chemo as you didn't tell us you had gallstones".... ... "I didn't know I had gallstones". Prove to me that the private sector can be trusted to run social programs without fraud.. "death panels" and overcharging through monopolies.  27. Septembro 2009, 23:49:19 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Artful Dodger: lobbyists. 27. Septembro 2009, 23:57:55 Temo: Re:I will join the the thousands that are boycotting the boycotters Modifita de Mort (27. Septembro 2009, 23:58:25) Artful Dodger: Then part of the problem is private intrusion on the government. Such is illegal openly over here and those caught lose their heads. And until the two are separate there is no way you can say it's all the governments fault. Do you have notes, video's of all the meetings with lobbyists? In the end it's all just opinion. But by UK standards.. it's illegal. |
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