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8. Novembro 2010, 04:37:59
Mélusine 
Temo: Re: do you have "free" health care ?
Bwild: My government pays nothing : every month a part is taken from my wage. All the salaried employees have to pay every month, even they are ill or not. And if you don't work, so don't contribute, you have no insurance at all (not 75 % and not 25 %). Children are with their parents under 18 years old. After, they have to pay a part, even they work or not, so you see, actually, I have to pay for my son 18 years old who is student at the University.

8. Novembro 2010, 05:29:59
Übergeek 바둑이 
Temo: Re: do you have "free" health care ?
Mélusine:

> My government pays nothing : every month a part is taken from my wage.

This is true everywhere. Here in Canada most essential medical services are "free" meaning that the government "pays" for them. In reality it is tax dollars that pays for the services. I pay income tax every month, and that tax pays for everything that the government does.

If people have private health insurance, ultimately it is really the same thing. People pay either taxes, or a private company. The difference is in who makes a profit. If one pays private companies to cover healthcare costs, those companies operate by making a profit. If one pays the government, the government operates without making a profit.

Different countries range from purely private healthcare systems to systems run completely by the government. In reality both systems are needed. Countries where the government has little or no involvement in the healthcare system are usually the worst to live in in the world. Those where the government (tax dollars) pays for everything often have problems with very high costs and high taxation rates.

No system is purely capitalist or purely socialist. Much of it has to do with preception. What to one person looks like socialism, to another looks like capitalism.

8. Novembro 2010, 07:08:20
Bernice 
Temo: Re: do you have "free" health care ?
Modifita de Bernice (8. Novembro 2010, 07:09:57)
Übergeek 바둑이: over here the bludgers on the Govt. assistance get everything for nothing, but must pay $5.40 per script for medication. The working man/woman pays a total of 3% of their total earnings , but must pay full price for scripts, some of which are exorbitant prices. You can have private health care if you pay for it but it doesn't cover everything. If you have served your country in any way militarily in combatitive service you get a gold card which entitles you to EVERYTHING.
Retirees get all medications for $5.40 and can choose whether they go public which is free or private, which is paid for by themselves,

Lets see if this post is left here, as my last 2 posts have dissapeared for some reason..

9. Novembro 2010, 01:48:09
Mélusine 
Temo: Re: In reality both systems are needed.
Modifita de Mélusine (9. Novembro 2010, 01:53:57)
Übergeek 바둑이: I totally agree with what you said : the 2 systems are necessary.
And, as you said, in every case, we have to pay : either a tax or a contribution to a private company.

9. Novembro 2010, 01:52:32
Mélusine 
Temo: Re: who is the one paying you back ? The employer or insurance ?
Artful Dodger: I'm not payed back, because I don't pay : I've 2 cards (one for the 75 % and the other for the 25 %) that I give and the pharmacist puts the cards in a device and then he receives money.

9. Novembro 2010, 02:35:35
Mélusine 
Temo: Re: who is the one paying you back ? The employer or insurance ?
Modifita de Mélusine (9. Novembro 2010, 02:37:33)
Artful Dodger: To receive the " green " card (for 75 %), you have to work about 6 months minimum, and for the other (for 25 %), you receive it as soon as you have paid your contribution.

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