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16. Majo 2011, 17:08:12

Übergeek 바둑이

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Temo: Will they bomb and put sanctions on Israel?

Thousands of Palestinians marched towards Israel's borders in protest, demanding statehood for the Palestinian people. Israel retaliated by sending tanks and troops with live amunition. The unrest spilled into Egypt where riot police used tear gas and live amunition, wounding several protesters. At the end of the protests Israel had down 15 people and injured 355 people in several locations. This protest was inspired by recent pro-democracy protests in the Middle East, and it was done to mark the aniversary in which Palestinians lost their lands to the newly-formed state of Israel.

The question is, if the international community imposes sanction on Syria, and bombs Lybia, will they do the same to Israel? Or is there a double standard, saying that it is OK to shoot down Palestinians in Israel and Shia Moslems in Bahrain, but it is wrong to shoot down protesters in Syria and Lybia?

Nato has taken sides in the Lybian civil war, not to promote democracy but to ensure that the oil empire remains alive and healthy. Then they impose sanctions on Syria, ignore Bahrain, appease Egypt's military with money, and give Israel carte blanche to do as it wills. We live in a world of imperialist hypocrysy.

16. Majo 2011, 19:14:25

Mort

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Temo: Re: Will they bomb and put sanctions on Israel?

Übergeek 바둑이: The UN has passed many resolution regarding Israel... but the USA always blocks them. It is noted (according to wikipedia.org) ...."that the strategic relationship with the United States encourages Israel to pursue aggressive and expansionist policies and practices".

But I've heard that Israel pays well to US officials that help support their ways. It would be nice if the UN was the security between the two sides, yet that would have to mean the legality of any UN actions against either side has to be recognised by both sides.

... which is unlikely to happen.

16. Majo 2011, 19:32:53

Übergeek 바둑이

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Temo: Re: Will they bomb and put sanctions on Israel?

(V):

I think it goes beyond the USA. Everybody (that means the superpowers, the Security Council, the General Assembly and Nato) have unilaterally sided with Israel. Palestinians get some support from Arab states and to some extent Iran. However, those with the power to bring peace to the region refuse to abandon their one-sided favoritism for Israel. The reasons are historical (the Holocaust as well as prosecution of Jews going back to Roman times) and strategic (western interests in oil and trade routes in the Suez Canal and the Red Sea). It is for this reason that Israel is the largest recepient of military and civilian monetary aid from the USA and Western Europe. The only way taht there is going to be peace there is when both Israelis and Palestinians are treated equally. The problem is that any aid that is given to Palestinians is tied to abandoning armed struggle against Israel. However, a similar demand is not made of Israel. Israel receives the aid, whether they pursue a militaristic policy or not. Israel is no longer a weak, isolated country in the beginnings of its formation. It is now a nuclear power with one of the largest, best trained military forces in the world. Yet western thinking still remains in the Israel of 1948. We need of think of the Israel of 2011, a very different country from what it was 63 years ago.

16. Majo 2011, 19:40:16

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Temo: Re: Will they bomb and put sanctions on Israel?

Übergeek 바둑이: shhhh it's not allowed to be said that Israel has nukes.. as well as probably having chemical and biological weapons capability.

After watching a nazi war movie on the ghetto's in Poland... I would have though that in itself would lead the Israelis away from such policies. Resistance is a natural progression of being made to live in what are virtually prison camps.