(V): Everytime there's a mass killing the phony politicians try to dismantle the 2nd amendment. It's not gonna happen.

In Japan: At 10:15 that morning, 37-year-old former janitor Mamoru Takuma entered the school armed with a kitchen knife and began stabbing numerous school children and teachers. He killed eight children, mostly between the ages of seven and eight, and seriously wounded thirteen other children and two teachers.

Akihabara massacre: At 12:33 p.m. JST, a man hit a crowd with a truck, eventually killing three people and injuring two; he then stabbed at least 12 people using a dagger (initially reported as a survival knife[1]), killing four people and injuring eight.

Anyone can search the internet and find numerous examples of mass murders with weapons like knives, cars, trucks, axes, - you name it- !

True that a gun is easier to kill with. But so what? That's NOT the argument being put forth.

BTW, people who have been arguing FOR gun control, they have been responsible for the HUGE SURGE in gun sales across the US. More guns are being bought and sold than ever before. Not exactly what the left was hoping for. If they keep this up, more people will own guns than ever in the history of the US. People who have never shot a gun are buying one. And bullets are being sold like crazy. All thanks to the hype from the left.

So instead of limiting gun ownership the left has managed to create a situation where people are buying more guns than ever before. When they talk about banning a certain semi-automatic, that particular gun experiences record sales! Way to go lefties!!!!

And like I said, I don't own a gun. But I can knock you over with a deadly fart from ten feet.

Artful Dodger: No... That's how the gun lobbyists see it. N' of course no one is going to end the 2nd amendment.


"Anyone can search the internet and find numerous examples of mass murders with weapons like knives, cars, trucks, axes, - you name it- "

Yes, but I stated before... a gun does make it easier to kill more people.

""True that a gun is easier to kill with. But so what? That's NOT the argument being put forth.""

It is part of my argument.

"If they keep this up, more people will own guns than ever in the history of the US. People who have never shot a gun are buying one. And bullets are being sold like crazy. All thanks to the hype from the left."

All the hype from the left, no-one else... like the NRA and right wing fear/love the gun promoters.

" When they talk about banning a certain semi-automatic, that particular gun experiences record sales! Way to go lefties"

Why is it always the lefts' fault? I've seen people who treat guns as a tool.. hunting, etc.. state this love of guns is .... .... nutz

"Nurse Stanek was horrified to learn that some premature infants born alive had been placed in a dirty laundry closet to gasp out their young lives. Jill Stanek rocked them and sang to these poor little ones as their young lives ebbed away."

And the hospital/clinic has not been put under investigation? It's a blame it on Obama moment?

"And do any of you on the left see the conflict in opposing waterboarding (Obama opposes it) BUT favoring killing suspected terrorists without a trial of any kind? (Obama supports killing suspected terrorists but not waterboarding them)"

Killing in battle, killing them because they are in a place they shouldn't be.

So many no real meaning bits....

American Thinker is not very lucid. ;)

(V): [ "If they keep this up, more people will own guns than ever in the history of the US. People who have never shot a gun are buying one. And bullets are being sold like crazy. All thanks to the hype from the left."

All the hype from the left, no-one else... like the NRA and right wing fear/love the gun promoters. ]


Membership in the NRA grew by a quarter of a million people in the month following the massacre of innocent school children... it had nothing to do with the NRA promoting anything. It was a reaction by people who were horrified by the mass murdering of children, but it was also prompted by the Presidents lame efforts to captalize on this tragedy. It's bad enough that it happened, but the President unwittingly fanned the flames of indignation by trying to use it to promote one of his political agendas. So once again, you underestimate the "unwashed masses" ability to think for themselves.

Iamon lyme: No... I was commentating that the NRA and pro gun groups have been just as vocal as the anti gun groups.

"Membership in the NRA grew by a quarter of a million people in the month following the massacre of innocent school children... it had nothing to do with the NRA promoting anything. It was a reaction by people who were horrified by the mass murdering of children"

A knee jerk reaction by people who are horrified it could happen to their children. I get that, I get people joining the NRA... 250K over the whole country... ok. The NRA have been defending the 2nd amendment. Some pro gunners tried to get Piers Morgan deported. It's been in the news!!

...promoting the 2nd is nothing? Saying assault rifles are normal is nothing??

Dude..... don't make me dude you!! as in Basketball duding ;P

(V): "Some pro gunners tried to get Piers Morgan deported. It's been in the news!!"

If Piers Morgan is the dude I think you are talking about (I think he was a judge on a talent show in the US) then I won't interfere with anyones effort to deport him.

Iamon lyme: No way!!!! He's your problem now. We don't want him.

HA HA HA.... we tricked your tv people into signing him up, payback for the tea party!!!

lol

(V): If only I believed Morgan was sincere, and his gun assault wasn't just a desperate attempt at being noticed/ratings

The Col: He did a series of 'life stories' where he gets to interview celebs on a one to one basis, aka PR stunt for the celeb... he only got religion after he started working in the US. He lied regarding the phone hacking and his involvement, wouldn't even come back to the UK to lie face to face.

He's as sincere as a fake tan.

(V): "No way!!!! He's your problem now."

Aha, I knew it! But other than being an annoying prig what did he do? On what grounds is anyone saying he should be deported?

Sharon Osbourne is okay, she can stay. Howie Mandel is Canadian but I don't hold that against him, so he can stay too.

(V): Maybe we can work out a trade. You got any US citizens over there you don't want?

Iamon lyme: I'm sure there are, but the trade is just not worth it. eheheheh

(V): "I've seen people who treat guns as a tool.. hunting, etc"

I've heard people on the left who believe the 2nd amendment addresses the right to hunt. Seriously, is loving ridiculous rhetoric any less nutz than someone 'loving' their gun? The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with people obtaining food for their families. Granted, today it's more of a luxury than a necessity, but does anyone really believe a right to gather food for themselves (hunting) would need to be included in any list of rights?

The 1st and 2nd amendments appear first and second on the list... they were not afterthoughts. To suggest the second amendment had anything to do with a right to hunt is tantamount to assuming it addresses the right to eat... ?

It was assumed that weapons would be used for hunting, so I doubt it occured to anyone back then to include a right to obtaining groceries in the constitution.

Iamon lyme: I guess you get annoyed by silly left wing just like I get annoyed by silly left and right wing stuff. Of course the 2nd was not about the right to hunt... that was just how it was back then, people hunted game... as they do still now. N' no it in some places is a necessity. People make a living out of it.

..... dude

(V): It's mostly the hype from the left that's driving the gun debate. The gun lobby is simply answering the critics. There are bigger problems that the US is facing and those problems are being ignored. It's all political. The politicians don't care about dead kids. Example: Chicago and Detroit.

Artful Dodger: dude .. that line is so old... it makes you look young!!

" The politicians don't care about dead kids. Example: Chicago and Detroit."

What about Texas.. One of the worst states in the US for child deaths and abuse.