Artful Dodger: Yes,I intended to say counter balance to Hannity.It seems to me that the only reason people get worked up about Fox News is due their need to deny their right wing leanings.Who cares? do they think it somehow discredits their opinions?

It eems to drive both them (and you) nuts

Artful Dodger: Rather blew it,it was sad to see,but it shouldn't diminish his entire career.Yes Rather didn't have the proper airtight background when he went out on a limb,but I don't think anyone doubts Bush was a weekend warrior with very little interest in serving in the military.

Artful Dodger: You're far too diplomatic in your opinions

I don't know if I agree with being lumped into your "anti-Fox" gang.I often watch Fox,now and again I'm on board with their slant,(such as the present war in Gaza)but I've rarely come across anyone who isn't aware of the "slant" liberal or republican.I suppose I'm a "tweener" these days,so save the Coulter shtick for a hardcore lib

I don't think libs are the only ones underwhelmed by GW''s act

Artful Dodger: And I'm still waiting for a proper explanation of the film 2001

Artful Dodger: I think you give too too little acknowledgement to the value of nuance in a presentation, Fox is Fox,according to you they're very misunderstood.I happen to think the general view of their presentation is in the ballpark.Where do you see Fox leaning?

Jim Dandy: I think part of what you see from Fox is a reflection of the past 8 years, where there was a need to balance much of the mainstream news that was so heavily slanted.... that made them seem like they leaned conservative, and based mostly on their non news stuff they do.

But lets see where the next 8 years takes us with Fox. If the mainstream news continues to drool over everything Obama and they give him a pass IE inaugural spending, then we shall probably see more of the same from fox, out to try and give some balance. But if the mainstream media uses the same guile in reporting on Obama as they did with Bush, then you might even end up saying that Fox leans to the left a bit, because they will again try to balance what you might typically hear.


Point is... when 95% of news is biased to the left, or course anybody who brings some balance to that coverage is going to appear themselves to lean right. It doesnt mean that Fox does lean right, only that to give a balanced coverage in todays market place they will always appear to lean right, its just the circumstances of the way things have been the past 8 years.

Artful Dodger: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22887506#22887506

Jim Dandy: nice AUDI