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25. Februaro 2009, 07:13:44 Temo: Re: Czuch: If I asked you what is on the dark side of the moon, or what is the price of eggs in China, you'd respond with..... "My point is, I want less government. You want more!" If I point out that your position is inconsistent, i.e., you want more of some kinds of government, you ignore that and say: "You just want more government, and I want less!" When I tell you that Ron Paul was my preferred candidate, you say.... "What a liberal! it is LESS government we need, not MORE!" So then I ask you to explain further what you mean, i.e., do you mean less handouts to the poor, or less handouts to big business? do you mean smaller governmental departments, including the Dept. of Defense? Your answer.... "See what I mean? You're a liberal who wants more government, I'm a conservative who wants less!" (sigh....) 25. Februaro 2009, 07:21:15 Temo: Re:Ron Paul was my preferred candidate,  The Usurper:Isn't he a Texas Republican? I rather like him too. Huckabee is my fav. The smart ones never get elected. Only the smooth talkers. (with the exception of Regan. A great American President!) 25. Februaro 2009, 07:30:33 Temo: Re:Ron Paul was my preferred candidate, Artful Dodger: Ron Paul is an old-time conservative. Strip the government bare! But I admire his consistency, because he recognizes that corporations are the biggest recipients of government handouts (and therefore evade true market competition), and that the government's agenda abroad is anti-democratic & imperialistic. 25. Februaro 2009, 07:34:03 Temo: Re:Ron Paul was my preferred candidate, The Usurper:he was on Glen Beck today and I'd vote for that guy. 25. Februaro 2009, 07:45:39 Temo: Re:Ron Paul was my preferred candidate, Artful Dodger: You should check out his website. As I said, I admire his consistency, and I also agree with a tremendous amount of what he has to say. 25. Februaro 2009, 16:16:45 Temo: Re:Ron Paul was my preferred candidate, The Usurper: corporations are the biggest recipients of government handouts (and therefore evade true market competition) Without corporate hand outs our price for gas here would be $8 a gallon instead of the $2 it is right now.... what the "tax the rich" liberals dont understand is that when the government pays them to keep our gas prices down, most of the money does come from the rich, and the poor, who dont pay any taxes, dont end up paying anything to get lower oil prices... BUT, if instead, the government didnt give these hand outs, and we let the market be free, gas prices would be $8 for everyone, including the poor people!  Talking for a true free market, then complaining when some company sends jobs to china???? Or is it only a free market with protection that you want????? Liberals.... say one thing, mean another... want one thing ask for another.... Trickle up economics??? really??? 25. Februaro 2009, 18:27:41 Temo: Re: "BUT, if instead, the government didnt give these hand outs, and we let the market be free..." Czuch: Ah, so handouts you are not opposed to, and you don't really believe in free markets at all. Thanks for clarifying your position. 25. Februaro 2009, 22:42:24 Temo: Re: "BUT, if instead, the government didnt give these hand outs, and we let the market be free..." The Usurper: Ah, so handouts you are not opposed to I dont mind some hand outs when they trickle down, and actually help the economy... I dont think hand outs to the poor really stimulate the economy but you guys advocate against helping big oil companies, which would have the effect of costing poor people more than the rich  25. Februaro 2009, 18:42:30 Temo: Re:Ron Paul was my preferred candidate, Czuch: Give the rich man 6 bucks, so he will charge us 2 instead of 8? lol You almost make me feel sorry for the rich man, until I remember he only paid 1 to begin with. 25. Februaro 2009, 22:50:24 Temo: Re:Ron Paul was my preferred candidate, The Usurper: Give the rich man 6 bucks, so he will charge us 2 instead of 8? lol You just dont get it do you? The 6 bucks comes from all the rich people you hate, so that the poor people only have to pay 2 bucks for gas!!!!! Yes, the oiul company hardly loses, but have it your way and we all pay the 8 bucks at the pump, both the rich man and the poor man  25. Februaro 2009, 18:45:50 Temo: Re:Ron Paul was my preferred candidate, Czuch: Simple Czuch, do as we do in the UK. The tax is included in the price of the petrol. So in the end, it's how much you use that is the deciding factor in how much tax you pay on petrol. 25. Februaro 2009, 22:51:28 Temo: Re:Ron Paul was my preferred candidate, (V): we have plenty of taxes already included in our gas prices... |
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