Bernice: I agree with you.

Bernice:  There is?  lol  Tell us more about the election. 

Artful Dodger: well....we voted LOL....it is compulsory over here...$70 fine if you don't.

But you do have the option of a donkey vote.

Labour went back it was a case of better the devil you know than the devil you don't I think.

There is no money left in the coffers so how the promises are going to be fulfilled beats me.

Another 3-4 years before Qld has another so we have to put up with the ones we got LOL

OH....a woman became premier....the first woman to be voted in in her own right....so history was made I guess ROFLMBO

Bernice: You forgot about Maggie Thatcher, plus many other women who've been in a position of leader of their countries.

(V):I'm under the impression she meant for Queensland.

Bernice: what is wrong with the Labour Party in your opinion?   what other parties do you have?

Bwild: Probably.... But as I said, she ain't the first women as a leader of a area or country. But it is nice that women are getting more in places of leadership.

Bwild: your are correct I meant Queensland....and also she is Premier, not prime minister....big difference HAHAHAHAHA

Bernice: Not really... She is in charge of Queensland isn't she? She's not a puppet??

(V): ultimately she is Labour and Kevin07 is the chief....and yes she is a puppet....she takes orders from the party....you need to read more of our systems me thinks

Bernice: Nahhh.... being a puppet is quite usual. Taking orders from the party is quite usual..... you should check up on the UK system. On certain votes, the parties use what is known as the "whip" to make MP's vote for the policy they want to pass through Parliament. Same to a degree in local government, but at that level there is more chance of independents and alliances.

(V):
  You're the one of the few people I know that can take a simple statement like this:  "OH....a woman became premier....the first woman to be voted in in her own right....so history was made I guess ROFLMBO" and turn it into a discussion that isn't even related to the statement made!   

But then I don't know  much about your's and Bernice's government systems but I suspect most politicans are puppets to some degree (there's always a string attached yes?)

I remember when it was said that Obama was the first black president of the US someone replied that he wasn't fully black.  This of course is true but does it negate the historical significance of such a thing?  Especially since in my lifetime, blacks were hung from trees in some parts of this country, now a generation later we have a man with dark skin in the White House.  A step toward a woman president and perhaps beyond.  Something just to take note of, like a woman in the UK becoming premier. ;)

Artful Dodger: It was related. It was about women being in power. Which is becoming a more common thing. Gone are the days of women not having souls, and women not having a vote, or unequal pay (wellll.. that one is still problematic).. but still... that one will come in time.

And it's more then a generation later Obama came into power since African Americans were hung from trees I hope. That was barbaric that people within a democracy could do such a thing to it's own citizens.

(V):Related, but not relevant. 

In 1935 there was proposed legislation to criminalize lynching in the US and Roosevelt refused to give his approval to the bill even after a young man, Rubin Stacy, was lynched.  Even as recently as 1981, Michael Donald was lynched in Alabama.  He was lynched for allegedly murdering a policeman (he had been aquitted).  Turns out he was innocent. But even then, some whites hated blacks so much that even an accusation against a black was deserving of death.  Sad.  The Michael Donald case hasd an interesting twist.  Donald's mother sued the KKK for their complicity in her son's hanging.  An all white jury found the KKK responsible and they were ordered to pay 7 million dollars.  Sweet justice too as they had to hand over all their assets including their national headquarters in Tuscaloosa. 

Artful Dodger: opinion. info, matter of interest, etc, etc, etc.

I didn't think we had to be on target all the time.

You are saying that in 1935 a bill was rejected to criminalise lynching!!!

That is barbaric. Maybe they should have hung Roosevelt for a few seconds for him to feel what it is like. I am shocked!!

Bwild: The Labour party used to be for the working man, by the working man, but the mighty dollar took over and now they are the same as all other parties. Only interested in feathering theirown nests. It was a very different world in the past for Labour but it is now full of Lawyers/ Doctors and moneyed people

We also have LNP = Liberal National Party (Coalition)
Greens = self explanatory
Independants = people who run on their own cognizance, and I might add are fairly successful in their own right.
and numerous other "strange" groups

Bernice: This seems to be a reoccurring theme with politicians.  Make promises you can't pay for.  Then borrow and get the country into a financial fix for years to come.  Then blame someone else.