Übergeek 바둑이: Honestly, with so few games completed, the ratings/rankings aren't very accurate for you, regardless. The more games you play, the more accurate it will be. So, I really wouldn't look at as "dishonest". Through time, it will "straighten" itself out.

rod03801: He does raise a point though rod which i have brought up a similar thing a while ago now

I actually asked, that i would like to know how many games that i had won / lost / drawn i would be on (and also my bkr) if all time out games were eliminated. Twice in the past now i have been with out internet connection for a time, and therefore lost many games by time out. Luckily enough it has not happened lately.

The point i am making is OK its my loss, and my bkr gets crucified on certain games (ones that i am pretty good at), BUT when i return and start playing again, most top players know who they can & can not beat, or give a close game to.

As an example, if my Lines of Action or Cheversi ratings went very low because of timed out games, and then i started playing again, and of course i would enter tournaments and take on the top players, many of which i would win, there bkr's would get crucified

I would like some way of this not happening, not just for myself, but anyone on either side of that coin. I think a happy medium should be reached

MadMonkey: I wasn't saying he didn't have a point. I was just pointing out that with so few games played, his BKR isn't nearly as accurate as it will be after twice as many are played. Especially at the number he is at now. That's all.

rod03801: Sorry, i agree with you totally with that. Needs to play more

I almost suggested once that no time out games should be allowed to be a part of ratings, but that would never work. I do think it should be discussed and looked into though. I do not mind losing games fairly, but when i think how many of mins are by time out, it makes me sick , even though i admit its my own fault (well the computers anyway lol)

MadMonkey: In the way BKR is calculated, the only factors that are relevant is the rating difference between players, and the number of games. If you have played 100 games, it doesn't matter whether you've played those 100 games all in the last month, or whether your last game was 5 years ago. It's just too bad there's no factor for recent activity.

But this is the way it is, and Fencer has said many times he has no intention to change the way BKR is calculated.

AbigailII: Interesting. Why should recent activity matter? Do you mean because for many games, people get better at them as time goes on? To me, that would gradually start to show as time goes on. I imagine that's probably not it. Probably something I'm not thinking of. (Imagine that! )