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31. Diciembre 2009, 20:14:16
King Reza 
Could a native speaker of English (as well as anyone who's not a native, but good at it) tell me if the following tag questions are right or not?

1) You think I have two brothers, don't you?
2) I think you have two brothers, don't you?
3) I think you have two brothers, don't I?

31. Diciembre 2009, 20:22:08
tyyy 
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Modificado por tyyy (31. Diciembre 2009, 20:24:54)
King Reza: I would go with #1........ #2 and especially #3 do not work

1. Enero 2010, 10:09:53
fukuhara 
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King Reza:
3) Sounds strange because the speaker ask what he think to himself. It is only possible in thought. But strange as a question.

1. Enero 2010, 11:11:59
King Reza 
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fukuhara: Perhaps it's wiser to state what I really have in mind rather than try to implicitly make native speakers confirm or reject it:

The tag question must be based on the main verb in the statement and must agree with the subject of the main verb as well, right?

In 1, there's no problem. I know that. But 3, grammatically speaking, is quite parallel with 1. So, again, grammatically speaking, 3 should be well-formed. However, it seems semantically speaking, it sounds odd.

2, on the other hand, seems to be grammatically wrong, at least as far as my knowledge of grammar says. But it seems to be OK to native speakers despite the fact that the tag question is based not on the main verb and its subject, but on the verb used in the embedded clause and its subject.

In other words, I want native speakers to tell me if a tag question can be based on the embedded clauses or not. Here are more examples which may help:


(For the sake of semantic problems, I won't use 'I' to start my sentences)

Statement: He knows you know she went out last night,....?


Possible tag questions:

1) doesn't he?
2) don't you?
3) didn't she?

(My knowledge says only number 1 is OK)

But, if I change the 'he' at the beginning of my statement with 'I', it seems things change:

Statement: I know you know she went out out last night, ...?

1) don't I?
2) don't you?
3) didn't she?

Here, it seems, based on the replies I got, that strikingly number 2 is OK, while nothing has really changed compared with the previous example.

I want natives to comment on my assumptions, please. Just tell me if they sound OK or not. Thanks in advance.

1. Enero 2010, 15:12:26
tyyy 
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King Reza: 2 sounds best when making a veiled accusation, 3 would work if the speaker showed doubt about his statement,like after a pause "... didn't she?"

1. Enero 2010, 19:48:12
King Reza 
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GTCharlie: Ahh, I see. Thanks.

2. Enero 2010, 02:55:26
rod03801 
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King Reza: Personally, I agree with you, in the post where you expanded upon your question. To me, each time, #1 is the only one that sounds correct to me.

2. Enero 2010, 10:43:29
King Reza 
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rod03801: Interesting. So native speakers might have different ideas on the same subject. Thanks for your comment, and looking forward to seeing more replies from native speakers. You and your friends may not realize it, but you're of great help to me. I appreciate that.

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