rod03801: I've tried to tell him the same thing but he can't see it. We say he twists things and he says he doesn't. It is proof that he's clueless on the issues. He can't stay on point and address an argument on it's merits. He has to bring in unrelated points because his arguments can't stand on their own two feet.

The libs are good at this (or bad if you want to be accurate). Instead of talking about abortion and addressing the points being made, they bring in talk about the morality of war. Ignorance runs rampant in liberal thinking.