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17. Agosto 2010, 20:28:35
Mort 
Death for Blasphemy

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

17. Agosto 2010, 20:42:07
Mort 
Asunto: Re:That was before Christ.
Tuesday: Romans in the NT, written by the Apostle Paul.

The world was violent in those times full stop.

17. Agosto 2010, 21:04:18
Mort 
Asunto: Re:That was before Christ.
Tuesday: As I said, Romans was written by one of the followers of Christ. Paul.

17. Agosto 2010, 21:08:35
Mort 
Asunto: Re:yeah Paul was a murderer of Christians before converting
Tuesday: So.. he slipped back to his old ways even after converting... figures!!

17. Agosto 2010, 21:18:59
Mort 
Asunto: Re:Very violent, but I was talking about punisment for sins and stuff.
Tuesday: Revelations... but it's all in the end down to interpretation. That bit of Romans was more about those who call themselves Christians who are not. A problem even back then

17. Agosto 2010, 21:25:21
Mort 
Asunto: Re:Very violent, but I was talking about punisment for sins and stuff.
Tuesday: Nope.. when they think the world is going to end and choose to be Christians just because of that.

Sad that some pray the world will end just to be in heaven.

17. Agosto 2010, 20:50:15
Übergeek 바둑이 
Asunto: Re:
Tuesday:

> Old Testament was scary times. That was before Christ.

The modern world is even scarier, and this is AFTER Christ!

17. Agosto 2010, 20:55:57
The Col 
Asunto: Re:
Tuesday: Didn't he send his son on a suicide mission?

17. Agosto 2010, 21:00:45
The Col 
Asunto: Re:
Tuesday: yeah, Jews are suckers for bling bling

17. Agosto 2010, 21:05:26
The Col 
Asunto: Re:
Tuesday: I'll take your word,I'm not a believer in any religion

17. Agosto 2010, 21:25:48
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:I don't believe in "religion" either.
Tuesday:

17. Agosto 2010, 21:12:01
Mort 
Asunto: Re:I'll take your word,I'm not a believer in any religion
Jim Dandy: neither am I... just I'm use to using the Bible with one core teaching in mind all the time.... "love"

17. Agosto 2010, 21:24:49
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:The modern world is even scarier, and this is AFTER Christ!
Übergeek 바둑이: Give some examples where Christians and the teaching of Christ are behind this "scarier" stuff.

17. Agosto 2010, 21:29:48
Mort 
Asunto: Re:Give some examples where Christians and the teaching of Christ are behind this "scarier" stuff.
Modificado por Mort (17. Agosto 2010, 21:30:17)
Artful Dodger: The Bible is not just the teachings of Christ.. if it was.. it'd just be the 4 Gospels. Nothing before.. nothing after.

It is not. To take stuff away just because you don't like it is a sin.

17. Agosto 2010, 21:34:02
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:But the NT says if you live by the old law you will be judged by it.
Tuesday: Absolutely. BTW, have you read the Naked Gospel?

17. Agosto 2010, 21:39:53
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:But the NT says if you live by the old law you will be judged by it.
Modificado por Papa Zoom (17. Agosto 2010, 21:44:53)
Tuesday: Yes. It's excellent and I'll bet you like it. http://www.thenakedgospel.com/Default.aspx


It's really helped a lot of people get free from old teaching of the church (traditions etc) and emphasizes how we are not under the Old but under the New. (am not in any way suggesting you need to get away from old teaching. You seem to have a firm handle on what NT teaching really is about. That's why I think you'd appreciate this book).

17. Agosto 2010, 22:03:59
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:But the NT says if you live by the old law you will be judged by it.
Tuesday: me too plus a couple of more

17. Agosto 2010, 22:49:35
Ferris Bueller 
Asunto: Re:But the NT says if you live by the old law you will be judged by it.
Tuesday: Then why do so many espoused Christians utilize the so-called "Old Testament" when it is convenient to condemn those who are different?  Many of them also use Revelations and John in the "New Testament" to promote intolerance of practitioners of other religions.

17. Agosto 2010, 22:55:55
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:But the NT says if you live by the old law you will be judged by it.
Ferris Bueller: examples please

17. Agosto 2010, 23:05:24
Ferris Bueller 
Asunto: Re:But the NT says if you live by the old law you will be judged by it.

Artful Dodger:


Leviticus used to justify comdemnation of Homosexuals


Leviticus used to condone slavery for 300 years.


Revelations interpreted to say that all non-Christians will be "left behind" when Jesus returns.


17. Agosto 2010, 23:23:43
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re:But the NT says if you live by the old law you will be judged by it.
Ferris Bueller: I've never utilized the Bible in that way and don't know of any who do. Don't over generalize. As for "left behind," that's a school of thought in eschatology. Even so, what about it?

18. Agosto 2010, 00:23:59
Mort 
Asunto: Re:I've never utilized the Bible in that way and don't know of any who do.
Artful Dodger: Are you sure about that?

18. Agosto 2010, 00:23:08
Mort 
Asunto: Re:But the NT says if you live by the old law you will be judged by it.
Tuesday: And what of those who've used Judas as an excuse to condemn and kill Jews?

18. Agosto 2010, 00:26:47
Mort 
Asunto: Re:But the NT says if you live by the old law you will be judged by it.
Tuesday: The starters of the Protestant faith wanted the genocide of all Jews.

18. Agosto 2010, 00:28:13
The Col 
Asunto: Re:But the NT says if you live by the old law you will be judged by it.
(V): Martin Luther was most responsible for that

18. Agosto 2010, 00:35:42
Mort 
Asunto: Re:But the NT says if you live by the old law you will be judged by it.
Jim Dandy: Aye.. and his words were used by the Nazi's to justify their pogrom

18. Agosto 2010, 00:37:13
Mort 
Asunto: Re:God has nothing to do with it.
Tuesday: Exactly.. Just as Allah or G_d have nothing to do with it.

17. Agosto 2010, 21:36:56
Mort 
Asunto: Re:Give some examples where Christians and the teaching of Christ are behind this "scarier" stuff.
Tuesday: ... the old law.. as in the rule of might?

17. Agosto 2010, 21:43:30
Mort 
Asunto: Re:The Old Testament is full of the prophecy.
Modificado por Mort (17. Agosto 2010, 21:49:58)
Tuesday: amongst other stuff.. including Genesis, why Jesus spent 40 days instead of 40 years in the wilderness, that God did not create creation first but a female side... etc, etc, etc.

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