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6. Marzo 2009, 19:41:36
Mort 
The My Lai Massacre (My Lai.ogg pronunciation (help·info), approximately [mi.˧˩˥'lɐːj˧˧])[1] (Vietnamese: thảm sát Mỹ Lai) was the mass murder of 347 to 504 unarmed citizens in South Vietnam, entirely civilians and some of them women and children, conducted by U.S. Army forces on March 16, 1968. Some of the victims were sexually abused, beaten, tortured, or maimed, and some of the bodies were found mutilated.[2] The massacre took place in the hamlets of Mỹ Lai and My Khe of Sơn Mỹ village during the Vietnam War.[3][4] Of the 26 US soldiers initially charged with criminal offences for their actions at My Lai, only William Calley was convicted. He served three years of his life sentence.

6. Marzo 2009, 20:21:29
Czuch 
Asunto: Re:
(V): My point is, how can tax and spend be the best solution to our problems right now??? What if we had a situation where we tax at 100% and give all our earnings to the government for them to spread out for us... then what do you do when the economy collapses??? You cannot tax more than 100%?

So, here in the US, we have some wiggle room to increase taxes and try to spend our way out of things, but what about a country where they are already taxed up to 70%?

6. Marzo 2009, 20:34:13
Mort 
Asunto: Re:
Czuch: Sometimes you have to inject money into a system or company for the short term to tide over a bad period.

And ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Income_Taxes_By_Country.svg

You'll see income tax rates

6. Marzo 2009, 20:28:19
Czuch 
Asunto: Re:
(V): war is hell... no real excuses here, except that the VC (north Vietnamese) were in the habit of using civilians (much like the Palestinian terrorists do now) and we were losing troops when we thought we were dealing with women and children, and then turn our backs on them only to be ambushed..... makes one more paranoid, and thats what lead to problems here.... soldiers thinking they were dealing with a VC trap, and not interested in taking any chances with their own life...

just stop trying to mis characterize things, makes it sound like these soldiers were out to get their jollies, had nothing better to do than massacre innocents on purpose!

You will have better luck talking about Pol Pot and his soldiers at the killing fields, tossing babies in the air and letting them land on their bayonets, just for fun, and to save bullets!

6. Marzo 2009, 20:37:34
Mort 
Asunto: Re:
Czuch: It was rather brutal, and these are the reported events.

And there are always some bad apples.

7. Marzo 2009, 00:15:05
The Usurper 
Asunto: Re: You've Been Hypnotized
Czuch: I believe your lack of political insight & blindness to real American foreign & domestic policy can be summed up in this one sentence:

You believe in the myth of American exceptionalism.

This belief has tragic consequences for your fellow citizens and the rest of the world also. One day you will wake up to this.

7. Marzo 2009, 05:30:14
Czuch 
Asunto: Re: You've Been Hypnotized
The Usurper: You believe in the myth of American exceptionalism.


Well, first I want to find out why you seem to dismiss the problem solution blah blah when it comes to global warming??? You dont just neglect responding to any of my posts as of yet, but this topic seems to have slowed you down maybe?

Secondly, exceptionalism isnt really a word...but I know you will not pass on the opportunity to explain further what exactly the "tragic consequences" you speak about are?

7. Marzo 2009, 05:45:13
The Usurper 
Asunto: Re: You've Been Hypnotized
Czuch: Exceptionalism is a word. Buy a dictionary.

Art and I debated global warming, and my conclusion was that both sides of the debate have merit.

As to how the issue is being used politically, I agree with you. Notice my post to Art on Global Warming just below, where I link to an article exposing Fox TV's role in brainwashing the public.

7. Marzo 2009, 05:55:01
Czuch 
Asunto: Re: You've Been Hypnotized
The Usurper: What about Al gores role in brainwashing?

7. Marzo 2009, 05:56:42
Czuch 
Asunto: Re: You've Been Hypnotized
The Usurper: You believe in the myth of American exceptionalism.

Maybe I need to update my spell check then, since it says it is not a word, or at least a correctly spelled word?

7. Marzo 2009, 06:04:09
The Usurper 
Asunto: Re: You've Been Hypnotized
Czuch: Exceptionalism.

Google it for the definition.

As to Al Gore, he is a propagandist for the global elites.

About the global warming conspiracy, my difficulty wrapping my head around it, to this point, has been two things: 1) Scientists are genuinely divided on the issue, or appear to be so; and 2) I haven't thoroughly studied it for myself. That being the case, I ought not to assert an opinion too strongly pro or con before doing my homework. Is that fair?

As to 9/11, I have done my homework and that's why my conviction is strong on the matter.

7. Marzo 2009, 06:20:46
Czuch 
Asunto: Re: You've Been Hypnotized
The Usurper: Scientists are genuinely divided on the issue, or appear to be so;

and with 9/11 its not evenly divided at all.. so that should not matter

7. Marzo 2009, 06:22:51
Czuch 
Asunto: Re: You've Been Hypnotized
The Usurper: haven't thoroughly studied it for myself.

why bother, it fits perfectly into your model.... create fear to promote or advance some agenda...

7. Marzo 2009, 06:32:10
The Usurper 
Asunto: Re: You've Been Hypnotized
Czuch: "why bother, it fits perfectly into your model"

Because some of us don't disdain truth, even if it forces us to modify our own opinions, when it comes to light.

"and with 9/11 its not evenly divided at all"

The only science supporting the 9/11 official conspiracy is pseudo-science. You could learn that for yourself if you would "bother."

7. Marzo 2009, 05:58:45
Czuch 
Asunto: Re: You've Been Hypnotized
The Usurper: But at any rate... global warming fits into your theory so neatly... how do you justify blaming the US government for 9/11 but you cant wrap your head around a global warming conspiracy?

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