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25. Junio 2006, 19:27:46
Rose 
Asunto: Re: Just don't know ?
Modificado por Rose (25. Junio 2006, 19:28:09)
Uninvited: I'd say you can either ask the person who created the tourney if they mind you joining, Or Join up and if they don't want you in they may remove you or send you anote. I've joined many tournies that I couldn't understand the tourney guidelines. I assumed if I wasn't wanted in I would be removed but that has never happened.</i>

25. Junio 2006, 19:25:00
Uninvited 
Asunto: Just don't know ?
There are some tournaments I would like to join but I only know how to read english, I notice there are no americans signed up for these.
Is there a way I can tell if they don't want americans to join ?

25. Junio 2006, 16:50:27
TC 
Asunto: Winner of the top 10% May 2005 (Crowded Backgammon): chessik
Modificado por TC (25. Junio 2006, 16:54:15)
chessik is the Number "1", between 8 good players of the tournament 'Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05 (Crowded Backgammon)'

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05


Congratulations chessik!

Thanks to all other players!

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05

24. Junio 2006, 04:59:51
MidnightMcMedic 
Asunto: Re: This stinks x2
Thad: Have you messaged Kiwiyeti and asked what is going on?

23. Junio 2006, 17:11:11
TC 
Asunto: Winner of the top 10% June 2006 (Hyper Backgammon): nobody25
Modificado por TC (25. Junio 2006, 16:46:59)
nobody25 is the Number "1", between 7 good players of the tournament 'Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-06 (Hyper Backgammon)'

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-06

Congratulations nobody25!

Thanks to all other players!

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-06

23. Junio 2006, 10:56:03
lukulus 

23. Junio 2006, 10:25:03
Thad 
Asunto: This stinks x2
It really stinks that (I) Kiwiyeti is holding up this tournament:
All about Pente!
and (II) that Fencer won't change things so that tournaments advance once a round winner is determined, even if all games are not complete. Slow play is fine, meaninglessly holding up a tournament is not.

22. Junio 2006, 13:16:51
Nirvana 
Asunto: Ponds

22. Junio 2006, 10:53:06
Nirvana 
Asunto: Starts July 1st...

22. Junio 2006, 10:14:06
TC 
Asunto: Winner of the top 10% May 2006 (Backgammon Race): Gammonator
Gammonator is the Number "1", between 7 good players of the tournament 'Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05 (Backgammon Race)'

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05

Congratulations Gammonator!

Thanks to all other players!

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05

21. Junio 2006, 11:59:30
tonyh 
All sections have their minimum number of players signed up; well done and thank you.
We'll just wait until 30 June to see if any more want to sign up.

20. Junio 2006, 12:28:12
Nirvana 
Asunto: backgammon tourneys!

18. Junio 2006, 15:34:16
azeria 
Asunto: re:tournament
Thanks Big Bad Wolf.

17. Junio 2006, 20:50:58
coan.net 
Asunto: Re: tournament
azeria: Yup, that is one of the "downsides" in being a pawn.

Many times, as long as you are done with your games in a tournament (like you are), and you have no chance to move on to the next round, if you send a message to Fencer and ask if he can "release" you from the tournament so you can join another one, he will normally do that.

17. Junio 2006, 20:37:09
azeria 
Asunto: tournament
Ok... I'm confused... I finished all my games for this tournament a long time ago... months... and don't have any chance of going any further. Yet, I can still not sign up for any other tournament until this one is over. People seem to be taking to long to finish their games... and meanwhile... I can't start anything new. Just a little frustrated.

14. Junio 2006, 20:31:02
MidnightMcMedic 
Keep up the actual discussion people, I like to see that :D

13. Junio 2006, 00:27:26
The Col 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
KotDB: I appreciate the time taken explaing,thanks.

13. Junio 2006, 00:23:08
gogul 
Asunto: Re: Now I´m not confused anymore
KotDB: Thanks, that helped!

13. Junio 2006, 00:12:14
Peón Libre 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
Jim Dandy: The Sonneborn-Berger tiebreaker has nothing at all to do with ratings. It is calculated only from the results of the games played in this round of the tournament.

To compute your score in a tournament round, give yourself one point for each win, one half of a point for each draw, and zero points for each loss. In the present case, you played 6 games, winning 3 and losing 3, so your score is 1+1+1+0+0+0=3. The same is true for each of the other players.

To compute the S-B tiebreaker, multiply each other player's score by your score in games against that player, and add these up. In this case, each of the other players had a score of 3, and you won 1 game against each of them. Thus your S-B is (1*3)+(1*3)+(1*3)=9. The same is true for each of the other players.

Thus all players in this round finish with a score of 3 and an S-B of 9, and since no further tiebreakers are used, the result is a 4-way tie.

Tournament results are computed using only the results of games played in the tournament. No external factors (such as BKR) are considered. [The only exception to this in BrainKing's current tournament system is if a draw occurs in a single-elimination tournament, where, due to the structure of the tournament. it is necessary to have exactly one winner from each pair.]

13. Junio 2006, 00:06:43
Sylfest Strutle 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
Jim Dandy: Missed the "player rating portion" in your question, I thought asked if the SB was tossed out. Anyway, as rodnumbers says, player ratings are not a part of this.

12. Junio 2006, 23:58:58
rod03801 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
Jim Dandy: Player rating (If you are talking about BKR) has nothing to do with figuring the SB.

It looks correct to me also.

12. Junio 2006, 23:48:29
Sylfest Strutle 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
Jim Dandy: Not tossed out, everyone got the same SB. Each win gives the same amount of SB points (3 points) because everyone are equally "strong", according to number of wins.

12. Junio 2006, 23:40:12
The Col 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
Modificado por The Col (12. Junio 2006, 23:48:47)
whopper: OK,so in the final backet of a tourney the player rating portion of the SB is tossed out the window?

12. Junio 2006, 23:30:11
The Col 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
whopper:Yes I read that prior to posting.Maybe I'm not too swift but it still doesn't seem to add up.

12. Junio 2006, 23:26:42
Sylfest Strutle 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
Jim Dandy: Stronger/weaker players refers to their performance in the current tournament, not their rating. I thought the same as you until I checked it out again now. http://brainking.com/en/FAQ?ht=19

12. Junio 2006, 23:23:56
The Col 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
BIG BAD WOLF: I thought the rating came into play while tabulating the SB

12. Junio 2006, 23:22:02
Sylfest Strutle 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
Jim Dandy:
What does "S-B" column at tournament tables mean?

S-B is an abbreviation for Sonneborn-Berger system. It is used to specify an order of players with the same number of points and is based on a theory that points earned with a stronger opponent are more valuable than with a weaker one. The S-B value is a total sum of points of opponents who lost the tournament game with the player and half points of opponents who drawn the tournament game with the player. Only if two or more players have the same number of "normal" and S-B points, they share the same final order.


All players got 3 points, and all players won once against each opponent. Seems correct to me.

12. Junio 2006, 23:21:36
coan.net 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
Jim Dandy: First you look at how many games each person won (Each player won 3 total games = so each have 3 points)

Then to get the S-B, you add the points of the opponent the you won against.

(So player 1 won 3 games, each person had 3 points - so 3+3+3=9, which is the S-B)

12. Junio 2006, 23:16:28
The Col 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
gogul: I'm no expert when it comes to tabulating the SB results,but I was sure I'd come out on top.

12. Junio 2006, 23:08:46
gogul 
Asunto: Re: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie
Jim Dandy: LOL, I just wanted to post that result too.

12. Junio 2006, 21:17:19
TC 
Asunto: Winner of the top 10% May 2006: Hannelore
Modificado por TC (12. Junio 2006, 21:22:17)
Hannelore is the Number "1", between 10 good players of the tournament 'Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05 (Backgammon)'

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05

Congratulations Hannelore!

Thanks to all other players!

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05

12. Junio 2006, 21:14:24
The Col 
Asunto: This has me a little confused as to how it ended a tie

12. Junio 2006, 08:00:30
gogul 
Asunto: Re:
Fencer: Thanks

12. Junio 2006, 07:53:40
Fencer 
Asunto: Re:
gogul: Yes. But you can kick them out.

12. Junio 2006, 07:40:02
gogul 
Can blocked users join your own tournament?

11. Junio 2006, 10:46:25
TC 
Asunto: Winner of the top 10% May 2006: chessik
chessik is the Number "1", between 8 good players of the tournament 'Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05 (Nackgammon)'

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05

Congratulations chessik!

Thanks to all other players!

Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-05

10. Junio 2006, 23:25:26
coan.net 
Asunto: Re: can pawns creat tournaments?
SafariGal: I think Fencer was already thinking about doing this. Just don't think it is high on his list right now.

10. Junio 2006, 23:05:49
SafariGal 
Asunto: Re: can pawns creat tournaments?
BIG BAD WOLF: in that case, if pawns are not eligible to create, maybe all his should be deleted? It seems the only tournaments advertised on the main page are his

10. Junio 2006, 23:04:07
coan.net 
Asunto: Re: can pawns creat tournaments?
SafariGal: yea, the person created A LOT of tournaments before their membership ran out - but they were all created when they were a rook before their membership ran out.

10. Junio 2006, 22:48:58
SafariGal 
Asunto: Re: can pawns creat tournaments?
BIG BAD WOLF: there are a lot of them, 3 pages I think still not started

10. Junio 2006, 22:42:58
coan.net 
Asunto: Re: can pawns creat tournaments?
SafariGal: Pawns can not create tournaments.

Those tournaments were made by a rook, who had since let their membership drop down to a pawn.

10. Junio 2006, 22:29:02
SafariGal 
Asunto: can pawns creat tournaments?
This link here shows a pawn has created so many tournaments I keep seeing them on the main page

http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trnst=0&u=15186

How do pawns create?

10. Junio 2006, 22:08:02
SPAIN TRAVELS 
Asunto: Re: Random Games Tournament
Marfitalu: ok i play,paco ordoñez

10. Junio 2006, 14:35:30
Goonerg 
Asunto: Re: How
Harrold: First thing you need to do is become a brain rook. (see paid memberships). Then you can create a tourney.

10. Junio 2006, 12:52:21
Harrold 
Asunto: How
How do I start a tournament

10. Junio 2006, 11:21:30
saeco 
Asunto: all games tournaments

7. Junio 2006, 23:18:22
TC 
Asunto: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2006-06
Hi, to 'The Best and The Fast Gammon Players,

This is an opportunity, check your weight against to other best players if you inside the top 10% any of Gammon Games.

Don't be afraid of endless games and tournaments! If you don't like to join to the Gammon Tournaments without end (related with the move time of the opponents), our games finish before the next month tournament generally.

We choosed publicly announce this Traditional but popular Tournaments here, in the tournaments discussion group and some fellowship groups to all the best and fast players who are inside the top 10% of any type Gammon Games.

Inside the top 10% any type Gammon player (Back, Nack, Crowded, Race, Hyper, Anti), is eligible to join to all other games in this Tournaments before the begin time. (June 15, 2006).

To check where you are in the ratings click to the related links:

Backgammon
Nackgammon
Anti Backgammon
Backgammon Race
Crowded Backgammon
Hyper Backgammon

Others, outside of top 10% players, will be deleted before the tournaments begin without excuse...

Match type: 3 points match with doubling cube
Tournament type: one match for each two players
Maximum number of players per section: 8
Final match type for two players section: 5 points match with doubling cube
Time control: Time: 2 days, Bonus: 3 hours, Limit: 9 days, no days off (red signed)

(That means after beginning you have 2 days (48 hours) for your first move. Per your another move, you'll have 3 hours bonus for your other move time. 9 days is limit time for the opponents, after the move of other side.)

Please click to the Tournament addresse and 'feel free to join to any type of Gammon Games'. You are eligible to join, to all Gammon games without restriction, only if you inside of top 10% in any Gammon Games';(for now we have only six type of Gammon games).

2006 June: Top 10% - Fast Backgammoners 2006-06

With your join to this Tournament, hope to play good matches and enjoy!

*********************************************

If you interested who were the best and fast in the previous Gammon Tournaments, please click to following addresse:

2006 May : Top 10% - Fast Backgammoners 2006-05
2006 April : Top 10% - Fast Backgammoners 2006-04
2006 March : Top 10% - Fast Backgammoners 2006-03
2006 February: Top 10% - Fast Backgammoners 2006-02
2006 January : Top 10% - Fast Backgammoners (Invited)

Thank you!

7. Junio 2006, 20:02:55
Fencer 
Asunto: Re: Antichess
Retep: From rules: "Who loses all pieces including the king or cannot make a legal move, wins the game."
However, this question belongs to the Chess Variants 8x8 board.

7. Junio 2006, 19:57:47
Retep 
Asunto: Antichess
http://brainking.com/de/ArchivedGame?g=1652454

This game should be a draw.. a bug?

7. Junio 2006, 02:34:34
Nirvana 
Asunto: Tournament
Modificado por Nirvana (7. Junio 2006, 14:17:46)

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