coan.net: Well my program was open source so anyone could see that I had know hidden spyware systems encoded into it(well those that can model through Java). The only comunication with my servers was an update system to prevent damage do to fencer changing the code. But I was always an advocite for Fencer to implement it on his own site. I made it because I saw a need and Fencer refused to fill it(Current autpass system is not good enough it demands both parties agree to use it when either should have the choice.)

There was a time when Fencer was extremly healpful with trying to make 3rd party apps. He created many feed systems for use with the facebook app but he eventually stoped helping when trying to add more complex options to the app in favour of creating his own group.

Czuch: I agree about the pay to click campain. sure it can be very profitable for him since he has lots of people doing it but it does not help us out by giving us more to play.