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Asunto: Spring 2003 open Pente / Keryo Pente championship
Come join us for some serious fun in the Spring 2003 open Pente / Keryo Pente championship tournament.
I would like to make this a fairly large tournament (minimum 10 players for each game) that continues moving along without waiting for long time controls. (3 days/move)
I will be looking to start these once/quarter and to eventually run sectional tournaments as more players obtained established ratings in Pente and Keryo Pente.
See all the specifics at the tournament. May 31st is the last day to sign up.
Asunto: Re: Spring 2003 open Pente / Keryo Pente championship
Gary,
I would like to sign up for your tournament. I currently have zero games in progress. I am not a paid member (and I'm not ready to become one just yet). I can't sign up for yours because I am in Hannelore's tourney. The problem is, two players are playing very slowly and holding everything up. Suggestions?
Asunto: Re: Spring 2003 open Pente / Keryo Pente championship
Thad -
I had expected this type of thing to happen and it is unfortunate.
I very much disagree with limiting non-members to 1 tournament, especially with the vacation time. Although Kevin has now finished his games, you will be in round 2 of that tournament and still wouldn't be able to play in this tournament. Also, you can be locked out of new tournaments for 3-6 months or more, due to a couple of slow players, even though you would have the game slots available.
I'm going to do something that I've thought about for quite a while. Sometime today, I will send a note to Fencer and recommend that he REMOVE the 1 tournament restriction for non-members BUT to KEEP the 20-GAME restriction.
I realize that this is a business operation but I ALSO feel that a GAME restriction BY ITSELF limits the activity from non-members enough so that the processing power of the site is not bogged down. The TOURNAMENT restriction is not a good one. If non-members aren't able to enter tournaments, then they will just play non-tournament games and the site isn't really saving any 'processing' power. It will also be important to eliminate this restriction if we plan to hold future world championships here. So I will present it as a business case to him.
For those of you who disagree with me on this, please do not make negative comments about non-members and that they should shell out the bucks if they want to play in more than 1 tournament. That is their choice and it's not really the issue here. The issue is that the finish of tournaments can be delayed for a LONG time by just 1 or 2 slow moving players and/or a tournament with a long time control.
I don't want to start any heated debates between members and non-members. I think that all game sites need BOTH types of players and I feel that the non-members are actually excellent 'cheap advertising' for the site because they will frequently bring other players to the site that will become paying members. It's up to the site owner to determine how many games he wants to let them play so that the 'cost' of 'advertising' doesn't become too much.
Asunto: Re: Spring 2003 open Pente / Keryo Pente championship
My first response to Gary's message was "well, the non members should pay up!"
BUT _- he is exactly right when he says that is NOT the point at ALL! non members can play 20 games anway, so it should not matter what type opf games they play. I fully support the limitation to 20 games, but I agree that the limit of one tournament is bad. WOrse, if a player is ELIMINATED from a tournament, he STLL cannot enter another one unless the netire tournament is completed! That cuiold take eons!
so whether non members should pay up is a NON ISSUE in this case.
Asunto: Re: Spring 2003 open Pente / Keryo Pente championship
Thanks Gary,
I sent him a short note myself too. Perhaps our two two notes, plus the feedback on this discussion board will be enough to get Fencer to enact a change (hint, hint). ;-)
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