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1. Agosto 2004, 05:54:10
danoschek 
Asunto: I second although the bugreport supporting the betatest was just due
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 05:56:39)
but, I beg for being spared out from being cornered together with impaired ones, Thad,
hope you got me. The questions on subject remain: will that silly bug be fixed - plus has the code support for Athlon 64? Still I stand to my praise of P3-line as only Intel-Crafts ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 05:48:08
Thad 
Asunto: Moderator's first true test...
Walter, would you please take some action to try to put a stop to the endless pointless posts that are coming from these two.

Thanks,
Thad

1. Agosto 2004, 05:27:54
danoschek 
Asunto: yawn
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 05:29:40)
go figure why I'm like so afraid of such spammocrap and, why his 'mental stability'
was so overwhelming that he could not be trusted with managing a simple, subject-
oriented board hence was fired for permanent misuse. Chickenpost hoped I was away. ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 00:25:46
danoschek 
Asunto: hmm odd, if I look at your picture, you boring and obsessive cusser
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 00:38:23)
I would say - the processor should be being cooled sufficiently indeed.
although I would use that type as pocket-calculator only - sparefunction & low energy ... ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 00:25:35
Stevie 
Asunto: Coming from the worse Gothic Chess player on this site
I thought that was me? LMAO

1. Agosto 2004, 00:23:24
danoschek 
Asunto: mental illness is the main gothic topic actually
Modificado por danoschek (1. Agosto 2004, 00:23:44)
since you invented it. ~*~

1. Agosto 2004, 00:03:19
Kevin 
My notebook is 3.06 GHz P4 512 MB RAM.

31. Julio 2004, 20:24:26
danoschek 
Asunto: and here my point about daylight savings yet
Modificado por danoschek (31. Julio 2004, 22:04:29)
before his usual insultive spam winds up to a riot again.
if you start the trial in the week between american and european
daylight savings, it assumes a cheat due to the difference. big deal ! for somebody
not obsessed by harrassing, a minor bug. but what do you expect, for funny reasons there
are people who demand money for underdeveloped betaware instead of paying testers. ~*~

31. Julio 2004, 20:09:26
danoschek 
Asunto: I guess everybody with a tiny bit of clue recognizes C64-graphics
Modificado por danoschek (31. Julio 2004, 22:05:36)
your diffuse puberty rituals of fixative proving whatever are as low as your
board-habits - why not answer to the topic questions here ? btw calling a cheater
a cheater is a definition, it's no insult either, so you better don't demand reports.
Although you have not apologized for your poor performance silly me presumed a courtesy
of leaving it behind. Of course we know why indeed you sulk about going away - it's easy chicken out from true competition. I for my part won't feel pelled to having hectic games with running rabbits - no game until licence is renewed. Due to my precious reward as serious
player I prefer to brag only with complete games - if feeling urged to such, anyway ... ~*~ 0:)

31. Julio 2004, 20:05:17
danoschek 
Asunto: sure ...
Modificado por danoschek (31. Julio 2004, 20:05:51)
as previously mentioned it's not about denying facts ... :D - like I defeated
all the aces and kings of your silly gothic deck ... vortex was a punchbag ...
no strategy (well which program has anyway?) - disassembled in a few moves ... ~*~

31. Julio 2004, 19:11:55
danoschek 
Asunto: but computer problems have an own board
Modificado por danoschek (31. Julio 2004, 19:13:16)
and I think actually - too many people focus on computer-capablanca here.
my personal opinion about the vortex program is known anyway. poor code,
C-64 graphics - the trial function does not even know about daylightsavings. ~*~

31. Julio 2004, 17:27:16
danoschek 
Asunto: the P3 is a processor
the P4 is a failure. Intel and Microsoft are patentcheaters as we know. ~*~

31. Julio 2004, 16:22:46
Fencer 
My notebook is 1.33 GHz Pentium III with 512 MB RAM and it's pretty fast to run any BrainKing simulations.

31. Julio 2004, 11:47:26
Fencer 
What are the minimal hardware requirements?

31. Julio 2004, 10:53:37
redsales 
i'd love to, but my PC is pretty slow, even by normal standards...i hope you find someone though.

26. Julio 2004, 07:45:12
redsales 
Asunto: GCWCC
GI, will we be able to watch the GCWCC live on gothicchess.org?

25. Julio 2004, 05:12:36
Kevin 

24. Julio 2004, 19:46:18
Walter Montego 
Asunto: 2004 Third Quarter tournament
Starts September 25th. It's an open, all players are welcome. Hope to see you there.

23. Julio 2004, 15:08:25
redsales 
thanks Caissus..i hope i never have to play one though..

23. Julio 2004, 11:22:35
Caissus 
Asunto: Re: please help, inventor...
Redsales, a king/queen vs.king/archbishop ending is draw (normally) alike a king/rook vs.king/bishop ending.Excepted are special positions.

17. Julio 2004, 18:10:24
redsales 
Asunto: please help, inventor...
is archbishop vs. queen a win or draw? Tried and tried against vortex but probably my technique is flawed and i can't force a win.

17. Julio 2004, 18:08:55
redsales 
Asunto: Re: Draws
i totally agree. i know we both learned a lot from this game...me mostly by accident! And that wouldn't have happened with a draw. There's something really abstruse about goth that eludes me...you're right, it must be the way the new power pieces can gang up on a king. Makes it more ideal for the attacking player because of all the potential (knight!) sacs in the middle game.

17. Julio 2004, 18:06:18
redsales 
Asunto: Re: endgame
Whisperz: at the time i was just hoping for a 2 pawn for knight endgame and a draw....the h7 pawn was the key because it was the only thing preventing perpetual check. Honestly though, I think Walter should have won the game in the middle game before the sac.

17. Julio 2004, 09:39:26
Walter Montego 
Asunto: Draws
I rarely accept draws, nor do I offer them much. What's the point? Hard to learn a game if you don't finish it and see how it goes with changing conditions. Perhaps if I played better I might recognize when to take a draw, but in the meantime I'll be playing until there's a winner or a lack of force forces it to be a draw. I feel simular about resigning, except if my opponent resigns there's not much I can do about it.

17. Julio 2004, 09:34:38
WhisperzQ 
It worked, although I epect I would not have been able to get the result you did. Your queen mopped up a lot of pawns after the sac which supported your win but I think could have been better protected. I liked the manufactured queen cover for your h7 pawn.

17. Julio 2004, 05:54:22
redsales 
yes bwildman, finished recently!

17. Julio 2004, 05:28:26
bwildman 
Asunto: redsales
is this the game that ended July 12?

17. Julio 2004, 05:20:00
redsales 
Asunto: Gothic Inventor
glad to see you back, GI. I don't always agree with what you say, but I respect your accomplishments in chess and as a player. And furthering that, let me post something about gothic chess itself, which is what the board is intended:

I won the following game from Walter Montego with a rook sacrifice. The problem is, i'm not sure if it was sound. After the game, I ran it through the Vortex at GM level and it didn't even consider the sac on the "shown thinking" window. I forget the actual move it suggested, but that's irrelevant, because I only used the vortex for post mortem analysis. Instead, it said the position was drawish, which is actually what I had thought at the time too, but Walter rejected my offer! So my question to everyone is: is the rook sac sound or is there a better plan? I'm interested in any thoughts you have.

http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=389169&i=50

17. Julio 2004, 01:27:45
danoschek 
Asunto: *slap slap* (tenacious beast)
Modificado por danoschek (17. Julio 2004, 01:29:39)
as already mentioned - it's not about denying facts :D ... another thought
to consider is that we usually advertise with the appealing boards here to
make a difference to IYT - but guests see the same obsessive bull - no good ~*~

17. Julio 2004, 01:17:07
danoschek 
Asunto: Is there a moderator active ?
Just a moment - I seee a cute microbe ranting via megaphone - please give
me the biology book ... thanks *SLAP* okay - it's not about denying
facts - fantasy worlds grow wild on the web. Just the noise you know ~*~

16. Julio 2004, 23:49:46
danoschek 
Asunto: I never got to play Trice either
Modificado por danoschek (16. Julio 2004, 23:51:20)
Some games were started - he resigned one - that was restaured for
mysterious reasons and timed out later to my disadvantage - not a single
one was completed correctly ... but White Shark seems to be strong indeed. ~*~

16. Julio 2004, 15:07:51
bwildman 
Asunto: Re: where's white shark ?
do you mean you didnt get to finish a game or two,but would like to?
I never got to play GI...but at least Walter was kind enough to give me a game:)

16. Julio 2004, 09:12:29
danoschek 
Asunto: where's white shark ?
Modificado por danoschek (16. Julio 2004, 09:13:57)
I could brag around with my two scores but unlike in the habit of
some others, incomplete games aren't really satisfactory, for me ... ~*~

13. Julio 2004, 07:18:44
Walter Montego 
Asunto: Gothic Chess tournament
I like this game and am going to add it to my quarterly tournaments. Third Quarter 2004 tournaments will start the last week of September. I'll post here and in the tournament board when the tournament has been created.

11. Julio 2004, 04:59:16
ScarletRose 
Asunto: Okay B Wild.. I am up for that challenge!!
Guess I will be fishing here in a barrel.. Yozaa!!.. Now.. all you boyz be kind to me! LOL

11. Julio 2004, 04:53:01
Artful Dodger 
If I play the game everyone would beat me. I tried it once and found it wayyyyyyyy tooooooo different than regular chess :)

11. Julio 2004, 04:51:50
LongJohn 
I'll let you beat me if you wish :)

11. Julio 2004, 04:50:26
ScarletRose 
Asunto: Bwild.. I may just have to take you up on that proposal..
let me check out that tourney.. :)

Walter.. I didn't suggest that comment several days ago to upset you.. NO.. I don't wish to have the job as moderator at this board.. I know nothing of Gothic Chess.. haha.. I only played trice one time.. and out of the 27 ??? moves.. felt totally overwhelmed.. haha.. perhaps also that was because it was so close to my finals..

Anyway.. Walter.. Congrats.. and to those others that had wished for the title.. well.. til next time perhaps..

Cathryn

10. Julio 2004, 18:02:09
danoschek 
Asunto: Walter you suppose. okay
Modificado por danoschek (10. Julio 2004, 18:05:25)
I would prefer you refrain from further personal supposing as I do also. ways I am
used to use for gaining some relaxment indeed don't belong to this board. thanks. ~*~

10. Julio 2004, 13:51:46
Walter Montego 
Asunto: bwildman ----Fish in a barrel
OK, I joined your tournament. I have the feeling my rating is higher than 1700, but at the moment I'm unrated. If your tournament starts in 10 day, I'll almost certainly have a rating by then.

10. Julio 2004, 13:43:35
bwildman 
Asunto: off topic?
ok Walter,you and harley are fired!! LOL:) (ed's probably rollig over in his grave!)
*********************
but to get back on topic,I'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone of:the Shooting Fish in a Barrel gothic chess tourny for those under 1700bkr.
Scarlet.....you can play ;P

10. Julio 2004, 13:10:15
Walter Montego 
Asunto: Re: bwildman's AOL hyperlink suggestion
That's copy and paste. Yes, that will put the web address in the message that gets posted here, but I've already done that. I want to make a hyperlink so you or any one else that was enterested in the link could just mouse click it, and off they go. That's what harley did in his message dated 9. July 2004, 00:18:59
I must have misunderstood his direction and I'll wait until he's baack online and can make sense of my replies and then can help out. This is kind off topic, so I suppose a private message would be OK harley. No sense cluttering up the posting board with AOL help and problems. Thanks again both of you.
I did notice in my test try that the /a was missing even though I did type it in. So perhaps the web server got, but somehow there was no message

10. Julio 2004, 13:08:21
Fencer 
I don't want to interrupt ... but doesn't this problem belong to Computers board instead?

10. Julio 2004, 12:58:10
bwildman 
you might try dragging your cursor over the page location bar,at the top of your home page,then paste that.

10. Julio 2004, 12:51:05
Walter Montego 
Asunto: Hyperlink test failed
Where exactly do you type all that stuff?
And more importantly, why is it so difficult? I thought AOL had gotten rid all the computer literate type stuff and had everything set up for mouse clicks and typing easy things. If that's really how you do it. Tell me where they have the instructions for it. I'll probably not use the links and just type out the web address and let interested people copy and paste it to their browser since that's quick enough too.

10. Julio 2004, 12:47:30
Walter Montego 
Asunto: A test of adding a hyperlink to NASCAR
<ahref="http://www.nascar.com"> NASCAR
Like this?

10. Julio 2004, 12:15:57
harley 
Asunto: Re: AOL hyperlinks
Modificado por harley (10. Julio 2004, 12:18:48)
You can't create them in that way, Walter. You have to type in;

<ahref="address of website">the text you want people to see < / a > (don't use spaces on the /a part!)

But leave a space between the 'a' and the 'href' or it won't work!
If you're doing a link on this site, you don't need the http:// part, just do it from /game/etc..

Hope that helps :o)

10. Julio 2004, 11:51:33
Walter Montego 
Asunto: AOL hyperlinks
Perhaps I'm missing something harley. Right clicking the mouse while hovering over this page will not get me the create hyperlink option. I have AOL 7.0 if that makes a difference.

10. Julio 2004, 08:37:41
Walter Montego 
Asunto: A Welcome for Me
Thank you all for the nice welcome. I'm still tripping on how it came about. In the wrong place at the right time? :)
I'll address some of the posts since the one I made after becoming the moderator here.

Hi Scarlet, I'm hurt. :( Not into Chess you say. Maybe not regular Chess, though I actually do like the game a lot, I just don't play it here or anywhere else for that matter. Some variants I do play a lot of and am pretty good at the ones I play on this site. Though I've been taking my lumps in Extinction Chess lately, I'm still the reigning ratings champ in Dark Chess. Least ways I usually give a good game, win or lose. As for games in general, I'm big advocate for games and the playing of them. True enough I just learned Gothic Chess, but it's not that much different than regular Chess in the way that say Extinction Chess is. As for why Fencer did the switch like he did, and how it happened to be the very first time that I'd even visited this board, that's just one of them things I guess. I've been a member on this site since February of 2003, and I've had contact with Fencer in the past, so his choice of me wasn't completely out of the blue and I did volunteer myself. If you'd rather do it, I might be up to letting you have it. First I want to see how I like doing it and if I have the ability and time to do it. Give me a little while and if there's ploblem with my handling it, please post it here. We'll either dish it out, or I'll step aside. Shouldn't be that much of a problem.

LongJohn. Welper, I'm still trying to get over that Backgammon tournament switcheroo you pulled on me and others a few months back. So I'll certainly keep an ever watchful eye on you and any shenanigans or perceived highjinks that might come up. Since you came back, we've not had any contact though I've read some of your posts to other boards and have said nothing. A new leaf you're turning you said, so it's back to you. I have my own personal policy for you and I'll let others decide for themselves. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Hey! Want to play a game?

Thad. Seems like you responded to some of those Keryo Pente things last year that I refered to here. Did the previous regime here kind of remind you of some of that? I know it's why I stopped playing Pente games here. Gothic Chess is a good game, there's no reason for it to degenerate into something simular. I shall do my best to let other people here argue and have myself stay out of it. Of course, me being me, I'll probably open my mouth and kick in my 2¢ from time to time.

ughaibu. We haven't played in awhile here. Four years? That means we're going back to It's Your Turn. Thanks for vouching for me and I'll try to prove you right about my moderator skills. I might be a novice at Gothic Chess, but it's not like I've been in a cave about the game all this time. I just hadn't wanted to play it until recently. I'm learning. Besides, my point of view about how to play it might have a naiveness that more experienced players of it might overlook or dismiss because they've grown used to how the game goes.

Stevie. Yes, my name is Kevin. You may write to me as Walter or Kevin as you like. I've gotten used to it, and it's not a bad handle. It came about because "Kevin" was taken on IYT, so I made it up. In the interests of national security, I decided to keep the same handle when I joined this site. There's also a Kevin here, so it was taken here too and could cause mistaken identity problems.

redsales. That's how I feel about him leaving. I just learned to play the game and it seemed like he took on all challengers like you and I were discussing how some people don't. So I figure, cool, I know how the pieces move, I'll get a few more games under my belt, and then see if he'd play me a game or two. Oh well, that's how it goes sometimes. :(

bwildman. Thank you. A little luck usually helps a lot. As for joining your tournament, I'm not sure if I should. I might be unrated, but in my short Gothic Chess career I've defeated one player in the 2000's and am holding my own against redsales who's currently at 1903. If you still want me to join, drop me a line and I will. If these ratings are a true indication of playing strength, your tournament will be aptly named if I win it! :)

danoschek. Yes, I mistyped your handle earlier. I'll try not to do it again. As for your sometimes cryptic posts, I'll do what I can to decipher them when able. How is it that you were going to get the moderator job as a prize if GothicInventor lost a game? Seeing how he is undefeated here, I suppose you were relaxed about it. :)

ShadowyFigure. Thank you

bumble. Thank you.

Now, about these long posts from me! I will probably not respond in this manner again. I want to thank all who've welcomed me. Let's hope it's a good choice. If not, I will certainly make sure it wasn't a bad choice. I won't ban anyone for disagreeing with me. It's hard for me to imagine me banning anyone (Which might make me a bad choice to moderate), but I suppose I'll know a problem when it happens and take the action when it becomes necessary.

See you all at the games.

10. Julio 2004, 03:17:01
LongJohn 
hmmmmmmmm

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