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7. Tammikuu 2008, 04:01:02
srnity 
Otsikko: Re:
Eriisa: I'm an idiot - can you explain how to figure that out again?

7. Tammikuu 2008, 03:58:52
Eriisa 
Otsikko: Re:
Gordon Shumway: my god, I had 25 hops!

7. Tammikuu 2008, 03:48:37
ScarletRose 
Otsikko: Re:

Gordon Shumway: Well.. I too have the problem with slower page loads.. not sure whose fault it is.. although, I know with all the cutsie stuff that is continually added.. it seems to slow my pages even more.. and yes.. I went ahead and refigured some of the things in my settings pages.. I pay for a high speed connection.. I pay 43 dollars a month.. which is about 3 times more than just dial up.. I expect my pages to load a bit more quickly.. which at BK.. it feels as though I am on dial up again..


Hey! I know.. it's a conspiracy against the US and countries similar.. LOL


Furthermore, I do have one observation I would like to state.. My family has been in business now for almost 20 years.. we have both motel and cafe.. Usually we try to be polite to our customers .. for if we continued to be sarcastic to them.. we wouldn't have them support us anymore.. Is the practice of being polite limited to just a few countries?? Is where Fencer lives a country that continually belittles peeps and down talks them like they are idiots.. Please let us know now.. so we can happily spread the cheer to all the newbies so they don't waste their hard earned dollars.. unless of course they are from Fencers neck of the woods where that behavior is acceptible..


Or perhaps it is his style of life since he is still a young man in mid 30's.. similar to the immature boys over here.. is Fencer also immature?? I wouldn't expect so since he is the master of websites.. and since he has a child I would expect he also knew what patience was...


7. Tammikuu 2008, 03:41:13
TarantinoFan 
Otsikko: Re:I just don't know if cheeky posts are the fastest way to get it
Gordon Shumway: I know that nothing I say is going to hold any weight because I don't

Cheeky, rude, disrespectful, baiting.......etc. I am only following the example set by the site owner.

BTW: Thanks for the tip. I will check my settings.

7. Tammikuu 2008, 03:22:14
TarantinoFan 
Otsikko: Re:
srnity: I can tell you how to get on the "certain users" list!

7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:55:59
toedder 
Otsikko: Re:
Eriisa: On windows, open a DOS box and type tracert brainking.com. You'll experience a timeout though, after the IP address 212.23.50.58. That timeout is the BrainKing server. It doesn't answer to ICMP traffic, so it gives you a timeout. Thus you can't use it for time measurements, but you can see the route.

7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:51:04
Eriisa 
Otsikko: Re:
Gordon Shumway: how do you do the hop thing? I think it would be interesting to test it at different times and locations.

I rarely have trbl, but did yesterday. Like you, I agree that its the nodes and networks along the way.

7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:50:38
toedder 
Otsikko: Re:
Jim Dandy: The problem is - you can't tell that unless you actually are in that area. And it isn't usually area specific. I am on ADSL 3000, but I could easily have the idea to switch to Modem or ISDN or whatever slow connection. Or I could have the same basic connection speed, but maybe my ISP has speed problems in my area from time to time, or let's too many people share bandwidth, or whatever... There are quite a couple of possible reasons for a slow connection to a specific site, and you can't tell unless you try.

7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:48:45
srnity 
Otsikko: Re:
Jim Dandy: Maybe if we level off some mountain ranges, knock down (or build up?) some cellphone towers, get rid of those annoying wind-turbine thingees, and somehow calm the Atlantic Ocean just a tad.....

7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:47:07
rod03801 
Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
MadMonkey: I noticed something similar with Alquerque and Jarmo boards as well. Every so often the site has been a bit slower, but not very much.

I wish someone knew the answer why it is only a problem for some people. I think knowing that answer would help a lot of people.

It makes sense that it isn't specifically a brainking problem, since not everyone is experiencing the same thing. To me, if it were, everyone would be having the exact same problems. (Or it makes sense to ME anyways.. lol)

I WOULD say that over the last couple of days, it is probably the more graphic intensive pages that have been a bit slower.

7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:44:41
Andersp 
Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter

Gordon Shumway:  I have no idea of what color the list has, the only thing im 100% convinced of is that Brain Kings transferproblems


never will occur on Fencer's to do list...keep swiping...next year we'll see 70000 less games. 


7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:43:41
toedder 
Otsikko: Re:
srnity: Shhh, I'll PM you about it

7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:43:19
The Col 
Otsikko: Re:
Gordon Shumway: Maybe the solution would be to post a disclaimer to those in areas that are most likely to have sub par performance on the site.The lesser quality might be logical,but it should be sold at a discount.

7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:42:10
srnity 
Sooooooooooooo, how do I get on The List?

7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:39:01
toedder 
Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
Andersp: I see... So it's gotta be the white list...

7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:37:42
toedder 
Otsikko: Re:
TarantinoFan: I'd like to point out again, that not everybody is having the problems you are talking about. I don't have them, and there are others who don't, and who stated it here right on this board. That doesn't mean no problems exist, but it makes it kind of unlikely, that those problems are on BrainKing's side (since we don't believe in a white list theory, right?). There are many routers and networks involved when the page data is transferred around the world. I just traced it, and my route passes 13 hops, but they are located in just two networks. So my ISP has a pretty decent connection to the ISP of BrainKing, I guess. And maybe yours doesn't. And for you and all the others a striped down version of BrainKing game pages and main page (like suggested by coan.net) might really be a great idea, to cut down the transfer time. I just don't know if cheeky posts are the fastest way to get it

BTW: If there are too many images for you to load - maybe you could turn smileys off to have fewer? Have you checked your browser settings? Does it have enough memory to cache all images so you don't have to load them again with each request? Because usually an image is only loaded once and then read from the cache instead of over the internet from i.brainking.com, and thus shouldn't slow your page loading time down at all.

7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:15:22
Bernice 
Otsikko: Re:
TarantinoFan: 'ere 'ere

7. Tammikuu 2008, 01:03:07
TarantinoFan 
Filip doesn't "Feed the Trolls" he is a troll himself. He never fails to troll through this site for "certain user" posts to respond to.

If the i brainking is taking so long to load doesn't that suggest that maybe there are too many images?

When people from both groups ie: "certain users" and "not you "  are saying the same thing then it would suggest that something needs to be checked somewhere and abuse of the "certain users" groups does not negate the fact that the "not you " group is having the same problems with this site.

6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:55:48
Andersp 
Otsikko: Re:
Muokannut Andersp (6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:56:37)

Jim Dandy: LOL..i think so...but Fencer prefer to call it "Feeding the Troll"  :)


guess we have to wait for the long article :)


 


6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:50:48
The Col 
Otsikko: Re:
Andersp: I have a feeling the press conference is over.

6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:49:54
Andersp 
Was my question to difficult Filip? 

6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:38:49
Andersp 
Otsikko: Re:

Gordon Shumway: Yes..i saw that excuse, but my question to Fencer was if it worries him.


 


6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:35:27
toedder 
Otsikko: Re:
Andersp: Due to the disappearance of Action Points, as he explained just two sentences further on. Which makes sense to me...

6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:31:48
Andersp 
  • 2005: 678,600 games 
  • 2006: 860,546 games 
  • 2007: 792,881 games

  • Fencer:  you have "lost" almost 70000 games  2006 - 2007...does it worry you?


    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:28:19
    MadMonkey 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer: ahhh thanks

    No not really, i have the odd smiley that does not show itself, but shows as a group of a few pixels in a block, but apart from that all BK images are fine

    Only problem i had yesterday was with the Alquerque board. I know it is large anyway, but for some reason the board once loaded, parts of it looked as if they were not loaded, if that makes sense. Like not completely there.
    Is there no way to make smaller Alquerque, Jarmo and Ludo boards ? (yes i know, time lol)

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:23:14
    Bernice 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Andersp: LOL

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:19:50
    Fencer 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    MadMonkey: Sorry. The i.brainking.com server provides all images and the brainking.com is still the BrainKing as we know it - the HTML code and similar things.
    Are there any particular images you have a problem with?

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:19:34
    Andersp 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Bernice: Better be a honest "Troll" than an a ...oooops!!!!!  cant say that!!

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:17:11
    Bernice 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer: At least people know I mean what I say...unlike you....And "simple arguements" are for simple people...you are in your own company

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:16:43
    MadMonkey 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer:

    p.s. Did you miss my question, brainking.com & i.brainking.com, what is the difference ?

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:14:58
    Fencer 
    Otsikko: Re: thanks
    ChessChampion: Thank you.

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:14:38
    Fencer 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Jim Dandy: Every respectable person deserves a respect. Unfortunately it does not apply to Bernice. Hell, I have made this mistake again but sometimes I cannot resist.

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:14:10
    Andersp 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Jim Dandy: Maybe a translation of "respect" to Fencers language could be a good idea?

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:12:07
    Fencer 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Bernice: Obviously you are not smart enough to understand the simplest arguments. Which is, to my amusement, confirmed by your every post. Keep doing that.

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:11:24
    ChessChampion 
    Otsikko: thanks
    just wanted to say THX 4 da site fencer!!

    i could neveerrrr really find many of da chess variants dat i have found here on other sites (i guess i didnt really loook tho cuz of IYT and stuff like that) lol

    anyways thanks 2 u and da other important ppl dat have 2 do something w/da site :DD

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:10:04
    Bernice 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer: and besides...I paid the money, Im entitled to service...or isnt service part of your user agreement?

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:09:35
    The Col 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer: I'm no psychologist,but people develop an attachment to sites,she's clearly not happy,but she deseves a degree of respect.

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:08:27
    Bernice 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer: because I love "giving it to ya" and watching you squirm LOL

    You have become expert at it over the past 5-6 years

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:06:37
    Andersp 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Gordon Shumway: I just "tested" 3 different Prag sites...all of them were flying....same distance bud :)

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:04:20
    toedder 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Andersp: Yeah... And this slowness is applied to the page transfer from BrainKing only to a certain group of users? What do you think why I don't have those issues? Because I am living relatively "close" to Prague and my ISP obviously has a good connection to CZ, or because I am on a mysterious BrainKing white list of people being serverd promplty?

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:04:10
    MadMonkey 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer: OK, i will except what you say

    Just so weird that up to a few days ago the site transfer / loading whatever we call it here was as fast as every pother place.

    So my question is, what has changed

    Oh yeah, and whats the difference between brainking.com & i.brainking.com ?

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:04:00
    Fencer 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Bernice: There is one thing which I absolutely don't understand (and I am definitely not the only one) - what are you still doing on BrainKing? Isn't is a good time to leave the site at last and find another one where they don't know you yet?

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:02:14
    Andersp 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Fencer: LOL...and all these bad things only happens to Brain King's transfer?..you are too good Filip!!

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 23:01:50
    toedder 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Bernice: If you won't stop repeating the same complaints over and over again - will you at least stop shouting?

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 22:57:21
    Fencer 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    MadMonkey: Your post is meaningful and you will get the answer (hint, hint!). And, actually, you have answered yourself because you say that the delay happens at the "transferring data from brainking.com" status. Yes, transferring! Not a page generating, no waiting for a response, just transferring of the data containing the web page source. You describe the situation AFTER the page is sent from BrainKing to your browser, not BEFORE. Once again, that's what we cannot resolve because it's not technically possible.
    There are always many different possibilities of network related problems which can cause this kind of a slowdown, including DNS lookup errors, browser memory leaks, international line overload, a glitch in ISP network switches, wrongly updated caches of proxy servers etc. I don't think it would make sense to list all of them.
    As I have said, I want to post a detailed article to the blog soon. Be patient.

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 22:56:24
    Bernice 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Jim Dandy: Im not coming into that one HAHAH

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 22:53:52
    The Col 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Bernice: Maybe the answer is throwing more coal in the fire,these internts are just a bunch of tubes,right?

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 22:50:10
    MadMonkey 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Bernice: I just want to make it clear to Fencer there is a problem somewhere and from EVERYTHING i can see the only place it happens is here

    srnity: I wonder what the i.brainking thing i get as well is then ??

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 22:46:38
    Bernice 
    Otsikko: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
    Muokannut Bernice (6. Tammikuu 2008, 22:48:13)
    Fencer: Im sorry....I didnt realize that you can see what I am connected to ....I HAVE THE FASTEST CONNECTION...that is available to me (ADSL).....and other sites ARE fine....you arent sitting where I am sitting and TIME HAS COME TO ACCEPT IT....yes you are right....ACCEPT that your site isnt the best there is, and other sites are faster.......
    Jim Dandy:looks like it :)

    MadMonkey:you are wrong of course LOL...he wont admit to failings..........

    6. Tammikuu 2008, 22:45:27
    Andersp 
    Otsikko: Re:

    MadMonkey: Waste of time Ian


    Fencer says that the problem isnt BrainKing's, doesnt help that people from all around the globe state that all other sites loads fast.


    As long as he doesnt agree that Brain King is the problem he wont accept any help.


    And now will Red/Rod tell me stop being negative but im used to it :)


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