(V): What? Nothing about me proving you wrong?

Those who can't pay don't. No one in USA is denied health care. There are many safeguards.

(V): propaganda nonsense infused with the usual disingenuous rhetoric (lies)

http://www.hhs.gov/opa/title-x-family-planning/

Don't get me wrong here Jules. I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm just saying you've got bad luck when it comes to thinking.

it's worth noting that Rush has picked up 7 new sponsors.

While more than 100 advertisers told Premiere that they didn’t want to be associated with “controversial” radio programs of any kind in the wake of the flap, some of these companies weren’t regular Limbaugh sponsors in the first place.

Carusone said most of the advertiser exodus over the past month appeared to be among companies whose ads aired only in regional or local markets, he said.

“Contrary to the wishful thinking of the professional special interest groups, reports of sponsors fleeing the ‘Rush Limbaugh Show’ are grossly exaggerated. In fact, the program retains virtually of all its long-term sponsors who continue to have great success” with the show, said Rachel Nelson, spokeswoman for Premiere.

…In all, “the temperature of this controversy has finally fallen below the boiling point,” said Tom Taylor, news editor of Radio-Info.com, which covers the industry. He added, “I think the advertiser base is coming back.”

You know, the one in which NBC doctored tapes of George Zimmerman to make him look like a racist? Yeah, they said they goofed. What a load of crap. They mean they got caught. http://www.mrc.org/press-releases/mrc-ups-pressure-comcast-demands-internal-nbc-investigation

Oh yeah and what about Anderson Cooper, you know, the one that JULES claims is "less biased?" Well, Anderson Cooper of CNN ran a story (with CNN's backing) that claimed that maybe, just maybe, Zimmerman called Treyvon Marton a "f*ing coon"

Then CNN played the tape over and over even isolating the "alleged" use of the word, "coon." But even their audio expert, who was interviewed, couldn't say for sure what Zimmerman said. A firestorm followed that report.

And BEHOLD, the very next day, CNN, via Wolf Blitzer, does another story where the CNN audio experts cleaned up the 911 recording, removing most of the white noise and getting a nearly perfect recording. And what did this "f*ing COON" racial remark actually turn out to be?

"F*ing COLD" !!! This time CNN played it over and over and it CLEARLY SAID "COLD!"

Then the CNN audio expert (this time a different CNN expert) said that Zimmerman clearly said "cold."

hmmmm And it just so happens that it was unseasonably cold that night AND raining!

So far, ABC and NBC and now CNN have all made accusations against Zimmerman BEFORE ALL THE EVIDENCE HAS BEEN HEARD.

But Fox remains faithful to the story and ONLY reports the facts of the case. They haven't tried the case in the media as have the others.

Meanwhile, democratic members of congress have said such vile things as Zimmerman hunted Treyvon down "like a dog" and one NY Times OpEd opined that it was "cold-blooded murder."

Once again, the left gives itself a pass for these serious violations. Scum that they are.

(V): That's a small complaint. YOu sure do like to keep this story alive. A bit obsessed with Murdock are we?

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/03/60_minutes_looks_at_case_of_te.html

Sad that this man served 25 years in prison for a murder he didn't commit. Sadder still that the prosecutor hid evidence and yet, is now serving as a judge.

There are those crying out for Zimmerman's arrest and if pressed, they can't even articulate the important facts involved in the case. Yet some are even advocating violence and the left seems perfectly fine with this type of thinking. Claims of racism and profiling without irrefutable evidence shows a crass disregard for the truth. There are always two sides to every story and then a third in the middle (usually the actual known facts) and one ought to keep this in mind before deciding they "know" what actually happened.

No matter what course were studied in college.

Trayvon Martin case: Conflicting evidence emerges

There's been more detailed evidence about the night when George Zimmerman killed teen Trayvon Martin. But regarding the two major scenarios – that Zimmerman acted in self-defense or that Martin was the deadly victim of racial profiling – the picture remains as murky as ever.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0401/Trayvon-Martin-case-Conflicting-evidence-emerges

An expert in forensic voice identification analyzing the 911 recordings in the Trayvon Martin case for the Orlando Sentinel tells the paper that it is likely not Martin’s shooter, George Zimmerman, heard calling for help.

Tom Owen used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman, according to the paper. Another expert contacted by the Sentinel, utilizing different techniques, came to the same conclusion.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/01/voice-heard-screaming-on-11-tape-is-not-trayvon-martin-shooter-george-zimmerman/?test=latestnews#ixzz1qpRJeoue

I'm not saying Zimmerman is innocent. I'm saying we don't know all the facts yet. I don't know what happend. I don't know Zimmerman's motives and I certainly don't know if Treyvon was fully innocent or what. I have my guesses but it's irresponsible to put out a guess when what really matters is the truth.

1st question: ".....what goes through your mind?"

Not a leading question. Good on Cooper.

2nd: Cooper asks if the father is sure it's Trayvon's voice crying for help. That question is fine too.

3rd: Cooper askes what the police have told the father about the blood found on Zimmerman. Another legitimate question.

4th: Now Cooper strays. He states that Zimmerman was told not to follow Trayvon "We don't need you to do that." and then that's it. But Zimmerman responded, "OKAY." And at this moment in the 911 call, Trayvon was walking towards Zimmerman. Irresponsible not to point that out.

5th: Cooper asks the lawyer a question regarding the police handling of the case so far. Good question.

6th: Then Cooper takes the bait and plays the race card along with the lawyer. I believe this is where Anderson was going all along. He suggests, after the lawyer implies it, that had Trayvon been the shooter, Trayvon would be sitting in jail (because he's black.) Maybe true by it's speculation and Copper shouldn't speculate if he's just "presenting the facts."

7th: Then Cooper asks a leading question and actually quotes Zimmerman out of context. Cooper's point is that Zimmerman profiled Treyvon and that the fact that Treyvon was black was the real reason Zimmerman was suspicious of him. Cooper leads the lawyer into discussion how MANY people wear sneakers, jeans, and a hoodie. (Even Cooper admitted he dresses like that - so what. That's irrelevant)

8th: "......is that just a matter of race?" Cooper follows up with another leading question -- again going into the "racial" aspect of the case.

Throughout the video, CNN runs cute little pictures of Treyvon but avoids using his current "ganstar" pics. Wonder why? And why do they use an old photo of Zimmerman that makes him look like a thug when his most current picture would be more accurate for today?

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/usa/images-8/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin.jpg

bias all over this interview

Anderson Cooper starts out by giving some of the facts of the case as he knows it. But it's not just what he says that's the problem, it's what he doesn't say. Trayvon was carrying Skittles (a type of candy). How is that relevant? It's not. What Cooper fails to mention that there was no way for Zimmerman to know whether Trayvon was armed or not. That wasn't the point. Trayvon looked suspicious and was not a resident of the area. Zimmerman knew this. So the fact that Zimmerman would wonder why Trayvon was in the neighborhood isn't a mystery. The point is that Cooper is trying to paint a picture here of Trayvon being just a normal innocent teen doing nothing wrong. That may be true but it's not up to Cooper to decide that for us.

Zimmerman is talking to 911 and asking to get an officer "over here." Meanwhile, Trayvon is making his way toward Zimmerman. Some of the 911 dialogue with Zimmerman has been edited but you can't tell from the editing............you need to use ellipseswhen doing that.......

Cooper uses the word "pursued" rather than the more correct "following." Why that choice of words? Because it paints a picture of Zimmerman as an aggressor. Then Cooper plays the 911 tape where the dispatcher asks, "Are you following him?" to which Zimmerman responds, "yes." To pursue someone is to chase after them. To follow someone is quite different. Pursued is hardly the word choice of an unbiased reporter.

Next Cooper offers more facts and then interprets those facts for us with his "apparently......" then he explains to us what apparently happened. Apparently? That's like saying, "Here's my best guess of what might have occurred next."

How does Cooper know that Zimmerman "confronted" Trayvor? Clearly from the 911 tape Trayvon was "coming this way..."

Next we'll look at the interview with the father of Trayvon and show why that interview as laced with bias.

March 31, 2012
7 Teens Charged With Hate Crimes After Beating A 15-Year-Old Boy

Did I mention the 7 teens are black and the victim is Hispanic? (The media hasn't mentioned if the victim was a "white" Hispanic.)

From KATU.com:

The March 14 beating in Palmdale was captured on video and posted on YouTube, but has since been removed from the site. The seven boys, ages 13 to 16, were arrested Wednesday for investigation of assault and committing a hate crime, Lt. Don Ford said. [...]

During the beating, the teens made racially derogatory statements that were captured on the video, Ford said.

After the victim fell to the ground, the assailants kicked him multiple times in the head, knocked out several teeth and left shoe impressions on his skin, Ford said.

Would the authorities tell us if this senseless beating was in response to the Trayvon Martin case? Al Sharpton did call on his supporters to 'escalate' civil disobedience if George Zimmerman wasn't arrested.

No word, yet, if the victim looks like Obama's son would look if he had a son...

(V): Less bias than what?

Cooper asked several leading questions rather than let the father speak for himself. Cooper led him down a path that was DESIGNED to make Zimmerman look bad.

Zimmerman may be guilty of murder, I don't know. Maybe under the law it will be only manslaughter. But you don't either and neither does anyone at this point (including the Father). The Father doesn't possess all the facts and neither does the lawyer. People ought to wait until all the facts are known before making judgments.

Next we'll look at Cooper's interview. Still want an answer on "less biased" ....than what?? Examples please. Or are you just here to quibble?

(V):" The case is that Zimmerman claims he shot in self defence. To which ... he gets a keep out of jail 'free' card."

Wrong: The evidence at the scene didn't give the police proper probable cause for an arrest. It wasn't Zimerman's claim alone that mattered. The evidence at the scene mattered. The police had some eye witness testimony that supported Zimmerman's story.

"Zimmerman phones up 911 claiming he's following a suspicious guy who is 'black', therefore using racial stereotyping. He then claims he shot the guy in self defence."

Again you are wrong: Zimmerman identified Martin's race only after he was asked by a dispatcher. One can only assume that racial profiling was a factor. That is unless you also studied mind reading in college.

"Yet other calls,as there is more than just one (but keeping all the talk to just 'one' is pettifogging) .. show that at the time of the shooting Trayvon Martin was indeed calling for help a few times and was indeed trying to get away from this strange dude following him."

There is no claim to only one call. And it's not yet determined whose voice is on the tape recording. He said/she said only.

"Self defence or trigger happy nut job?"

Well that's the question now isn't it? How marvelous you and others can make such positive determinations regarding the facts of this case even BEFORE all the facts are known. Simply amazing.

rod03801: He definately leans to the Right but there's no secret there. Without Fox leading the way, many of these left wing (NBC) programs would get away with their lies and deceit.

I love being right about Fox news being the most honest.

As the 911 call editing controversy continues to grow, MSNBC contributor Touré was recently called out on air by CNN's Piers Morgan for his seemingly racially biased handling of the Florida story. When MSNBC branded itself as the "Leans Forward" network, few likely suspected it meant to stir up racial divide in America. Now, NBC looks to be taking a page out of MSNBC's playbook, as well.

MSNBC contributor Toure suffered an epic meltdown on CNN last night. Piers Morgan challenged Touré to come on his show to debate the Trayvon killing after their Twitter war earlier in the week. Morgan blasted Toure for his race-baiting and lecturing.

With the NAACP and MSNBC's Al Sharpton divided over the incident, Barack Obama weighing in early, only to say nothing in recent days, and now rival Cable News networks questioning MSNBC's and even NBC's judgment, it's hard to see the post-racial healing in America Barack Obama promised while running for office in 2008.

Fox News, led by host Sean Hannity, along with Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center, have also been challenging NBC on what appears to be an outrageous use of an editing technique to make the 911 call seem damning of Zimmerman, as well as divisive and inflammatory along racial lines.

After playing both versions, Hannity said: “They forgot the dispatcher’s question! How could NBC, in good conscience, do that?”

“This isn’t bias, this isn’t distortion, this is an all-out falsehood by NBC News,” answers Bozell, who runs a conservative watchdog group called the Media Research Center.

“When you hear him say, ‘he looks black,’ anyone watching that believes that there are racial overtones to what this man did,” Bozell says. “How could you not believe that? It goes with the narrative of the profiling. The only problem is, they edited out the dispatcher asking him, ‘what does he look like?’”

“This is NBC News, Brent, and this is what they did at a time when emotions are running very high in this country,” Hannity said during his Thursday night TV show.

“Tom Brokaw, Matt Lauer, I wonder if they’re proud tonight?” Hannity asked.

NBC News declined to comment.

NBC News is said to have launched an internal investigation into why it posted an edited version of George Zimmerman's call to a 911 dispatcher made prior to a shooting incident resulting in the death of 17 year-old Trayvon Martin. The altered version made it appear as though Martin's race was an important factor that night for Zimmerman, when, in fact, he was only answering a question posed by a 911 dispatcher.

NBC told the Washington Post's Erik Wemple Saturday that it would investigate an incident in which the "Today" show used an abridged recording of George Zimmerman's 911 call before he killed Trayvon Martin. The version used by NBC emphasized race as a factor in the incident.

rod03801: Without the race card, the lib will lose the black vote. Liberals keep black "in their place" so that they continue to feel oppressed and "need" the Libs to rescue them.

rod03801: I guess Spike called the people and apologized but I'd still sue his butt.

rod03801: It's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. And you can't arrest someone without legal probable cause. That's what so frustrating about this whole thing. Key black leaders want Zimmerman arrested JUST BECAUSE. If Zimmerman was a black man, nothing would have been said. Black on Black crime is rampant and those same key black leaders are silent.

Interesting too is that Zimmerman is referred to as a "White" or "White Hispanic." The media has to get the "white" in there. But Zimmerman is 1/2 white (as is Obama). But we never hear Obama referred to as that White Black President!

Al Sharpton is a racist. He is silent when it's black on white crime (as was in the recent news when two blacks set afire a white kid just for "being white."

The Black Panthers are threatening to take matters into their own hands. All this rabble rousing is coming from the LEFT, and not the Right. And once again, Fox news leads the way in just presenting the facts. NBC is promoting Sharpton's racist rhetoric.

The Left hates Fox but loves NBC. They hate the peaceful Tea Party but love the raping/murdering/arsonists in the OWS movement.

Over 50 people were killed when the Rodney King incident lit the fuse for the LA riots. It seems the Left's answer to everything that doesn't go their way is violence against innocent persons. And the media help push the Left's agressive and anti-American agenda. Only those in the center politically can save the US from another civil war.

(V): And Jules, editing a quote to give the impression of racism isn't a petty detail. And it's not been fully established whose voice is on the recording. There is an eyewitness whose statement claimed it was Zimmerman who uttered the cries of help.

(V): and you know it's racist how? Not all the facts are even known. Did you also study this case in college?

From Breitbart:

In an NBC segment featuring George Zimmerman's 911 call on the night of the Trayvon Martin shooting, Zimmerman is heard saying: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.”

The full version, though, unfolds like this:

Zimmerman: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good, or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.”
911 operator: “Okay. And this guy, is he white black or Hispanic?”
Zimmerman: “He looks black.”

NewsBusters discovered MSNBC.com made the same deceptive edit in their reporting.

This man will never get a fair trial.

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(in case you missed it: Fox News is the dominant US cable news network.)


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/country_profiles/1217752.stm



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/country_profiles/1217752.stm

(V): Not in the US it isn't.

Fox is still number one.

According to a new poll: The most trusted commentator on news is Bill O'Reilly. Hands down. lol

Fox is still number one and is burring the opposition.

The Phony Kony Baloney 2012 Propaganda 2.0 Explained – USA wants Africa!

http://powerpointparadise.com/blog/2012/03/the-phony-kony-2012-propaganda-2-0-explained-usa-wants-africa/

(V): So the Kony thing's a Phony thing?

The Col: It's likely some rejected it on premise as well. But since it's also illegal, it makes all arguments for and against moot.

I dare say that most Republicans would fail that test unless they are women. Men far out number women when it comes to watching porn. And like some GOP hopeful is gonna admit to a late nite date with a "special" google search.

Vikings: I'm ready to move on. It's all pointless anyway.

Ed Schultz called Laura Ingraham a "talk slut" and Laura Ingraham didn't receive a Presidential phone call. Congresswoman Michele Bachmann was called a "bitch" by way of Fishbone's "Lyin' Ass Bitch" intro song on Jimmy Fallon's show and didn't receive a Presidential phone call. Michelle Malkin was called a "mashed-up bag of meat" by Keith Olbermann and she didn't receive a Presidental phone call. Sarah Palin was called a "c*nt" by Bill Maher and she didn't receive a Presidential phone call. Countless other conservative women, like myself, have over the past several days been threatened with death and rape on Twitter and in email if we ask why we should pay for another woman's contraception. We didn't get Presidential phone calls. Why? Because Barack Obama can't use us to make an argument for birth control to hide his attack on the First Amendment.

lizrising: It's your own personal interpretation that Rush suggested he "owned" Fluke. That is laughable. You're making this up as you go. The real standard of a liberal is the double standard.


And liz, you originally said unacceptable, NOT completely.

Something that is unacceptable can also be bad form. I have the better view: equally bad. Equally unacceptable. Equal! You're still making excuses.

lizrising: Oh, so now you're going to measure the offense by the words of the apology? More hypocrisy.

Carbonite stock approaches 52-week low since dropping sponsorship of Rush Limbaugh show
While Carbonite decides to drop it’s sponsorship of the Rush Limbaugh show over their faux outrage over the whole Sandra Fluke situation, while continuing to sponsor misogynist Ed Schultz is dropping like a rock. As of the closing bell on Monday, March 5th, 2012, Carbonite’s stock dropped to $9.15 per share. They actually hit their 52 week (or one year) low during trading of $9.09 per share. Oh, and the 52 week high for Carbonite stock was $21.10. Seems like they have quite a business model running there huh?

lizrising: So calling a woman a slut is just bad form but asking for sex tapes is pure evil? You can't be serious? That is a huge double standard! Both are equally wrong. Maybe it's just that Rush is a conservative and that's your biggest beef.

lizrising: "The name calling by Ed Schultz and whoever else is also unacceptable, but what Limbaugh said is pure evil."

nonsense

I've already explained to you what real evil looks like. Don't cheapen it. And your statement above is clearly minimizing the name calling by Schultz. So it's not so bad, according to you, to call a woman a slut. Just inappropriate (like farting in public). Come on!

What more do you liberals need to read to realize that it's the LEFT that is vile and filthy???

Rush is singled out because he's a conservative. What he said was wrong but all of you who are "offended" by his words have been totally silent about these other incidents. Why? Those women were conservatives.

Hypocritical!

It's ALL wrong! Just say it and stop making excuses. (pay attention Jules)

Let’s see how they react when one of their own savages women in ways Limbaugh would never dream of doing.

Everyone remembers Ed Schultz calling Laura Ingraham a “slut” on his radio show.
MSNBC suspended him for a week, but none of Schultz’s advertisers dropped his show under media pressure. There was no pressure. Some of the same sponsors now pulling out of Rush’s show still support Schultz.

What Schultz said is nothing compared to his colleagues.

Fellow talk show host Mike Malloy hoped Sarah Palin “drives herself into madness” and insisted Michele Bachmann is an “evil bitch from Hell” who would have gladly supervised the Holocaust.

Montel Williams rooted on Air America for Bachmann to slit her own wrist or throat.

Randi Rhodes insisted that teenage boys weren’t safe from Palin’s advances if they stayed over at her house. There’s no news coverage or “war on women” narrative when the mud-covered women are conservatives.

Then consider the case study of Bill Maher, who’s welcomed all over TV news shows.
A year ago on his HBO show, he called Sarah Palin a “dumb twat.”
He followed up days later in a Dallas stand-up routine by calling Palin the C-word.
Last July on HBO, he said Palin was “a bully who sells patriotism like a pimp, and the leader of a strange family of inbred weirdos.”
Last September on his show, Maher said Palin would have sex with Rick Perry if he was black.

Days after he called Palin the T-word, he appeared with then-CNN host Eliot Spitzer, where Spitzer concluded, “Your show is brilliant. I love watching it.”

On Sunday, Democratic Party chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz huffed on “Meet the Press” that "I don't know any woman in America that thinks that being called a slut is funny." But two months ago, she accepted an invitation to sit on the set with the man who called Palin a “c---.”

President Obama placed a tender phone call to Sandra Fluke Friday to express sympathy for Limbaugh’s harsh words. He never called Ingraham, or Palin. But his super PAC did cash that $1 million check from Maher.

Some outrage

A couple of years ago, “comedian” Louis CK “joked” on the Opie and Anthony radio show about Palin coming to the Republican convention “holding a baby that just came out of her f-ing, disgusting [C-word], her f-ing retard-making [C-word]. I hate her more than anybody,” he said.
On Twitter, this “comedian” attacked Palin in 2011 as a “f—ing jackoff [C-word]-face jazzy wondergirl” who “has a family of Chinese poor people living in her [C-word] hole.”
Guess which event this same fellow is headlining in June? -- The Radio and Television Correspondents Dinner.
“We’re very excited about having Louis C.K. at the dinner,” said Jay McMichael of CNN, who chairs the Radio and Television Correspondents Associations’s executive committee. “This is an evening you’ll want to experience. We’re shaking things up, showcasing the unexpected, and delivering lots of laughs.”

lizrising: Liz, you said Ed was inappropriate but that Rush was pure evil. You minimized what Ed said. That's dishonest.