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13. Syyskuu 2010, 04:09:42

Übergeek 바둑이

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Otsikko: Re: .. And what about the fact that Judaism rejects the idea Christ is the Messiah??

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> Is it? Is that straight out of Roman Catholicism ..?

Just to clarify, Jesus as the savior of humanity comes directly from Saint Paul. In the Pauline view of salvation, human beings are born tainted with Adam and Eve's original sin. In Paul's interpretation, death (or damanation if you will) came through one man: Adam. Then life (salvation) came through one man, the Messiah; that is, Jesus Christ. I forget the exact verses of the New Testament, but it is attributed to Paul.

Then, the sacrament of baptism takes the place of circumcision. Circumcision is the sign of the covenant between God and Abraham. When a Christian is baptized, he or she accepts Jesus Christ as their true savior and enters a new Covenant between God and humanity. When Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist we have the manifestation of the Holy Trinity, and at that moment God enters into a ne Covenant with humanity. At least that is the theological interpretation that came through the centuries.

I am no expert in theology, but I did do some reading on it. The "meat and bones" of Christianity is found in Paul's writings. He was Christianity's first great theologian.

13. Syyskuu 2010, 04:19:18

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Otsikko: Re: .. And what about the fact that Judaism rejects the idea Christ is the Messiah??

Muokannut Vikings (13. Syyskuu 2010, 04:20:10)

Übergeek 바둑이: John 3:16 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3%3A16&version=NIV#en-NIV-26127

and baptism has nothing to do with accepting Jesus in Christianity, John 5:24 "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.
This verse clearly confirms that all that is needed to be born again and saved it to believe

13. Syyskuu 2010, 16:40:18

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Otsikko: Re: human beings are born tainted with Adam and Eve's original sin.

Übergeek 바둑이: Adam and Eve were given choice.. freewill. If you read what God says after the event.. Now they can be like me. Which, implies before Adam and Eve ate of the tree they were not fully 'alive'.

Christ is a 'way' the stories told of him are to help folks learn serenity and to open/awaken that 'Christ' spirit in us all. He is the personification of the Godhead. Baptism is such a sign you accept the way.

Circumcision I read is a sign that us men have to control our animal side firstly and identity secondly.

As to theological interpretation.... Pope John Paul II finally declared that the Jews did not kill Jesus.