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13. Lokakuu 2010, 18:28:33 Otsikko: One sided game  Sadly, the UN Security Council has always played a one-sided game that favours Israel over the Palestinian people. From its creation after WW II to the present, Israel has enjoyed the favour of most superpowers. Things in Israel will never improve as long as external powers intercede to defend Israel every time Israel does something that contravenes UN resolutions and tries to extend its official territorial boundaries. If Israel is to be recognized as a Jewish state, then other religious states would deserve the same priviledge. Mullahs in Iraq and Afghanistan want those countries to be recognized as Islamic states. The Taliban (however despicable its social policies might be) would have a point in saying that its existence as a state structure is justified on religious grounds. Thus western powers play an inconsistent game that favous Israel. They pretend to deplore the conditions under which Palestinians live, but at the same time they give Israel billions of dollars in economic and military aid. They carry out trade and commerce with Israel, but do little to help the Palestinian economy. It comes as no surprise then that Israel has the resources to build one of the largest armies in the World, equipped with war planes, tanks, battle ships and even nuclear weapons; while Palestinians have to fight back with rocks and home-made bombs. It is a one-sided game with the UN pretending to care but doing nothing to change anything. The Security council is blind and refuses to pass any resolutions or trade embargoes that would force both Israel and Palestine to make a lasting peace and recognize each other's right to exist. If western powers wanted peace in the Middle East, they would start by using economic weapons in the same way that they have used them with Iran and North Korea. They would halt all military aid and declare a trade embargo in armaments and military technologies. They would impose banking restrictions and they would stop trading in anything that could be used as a weapon or to give either side an advantage in a war. As it is, that situation already exists with the Palestinians, but not with the Israelis. Any move to curtail trade and impose embargoes would affect mostly Israel because Palestinians are already at a huge disadvantage. The only way to move forward is to end the one-sided game, and nobody wants that. Not our western powers and least of all Israel. 13. Lokakuu 2010, 21:14:53 Otsikko: Re: One sided game Übergeek 바둑이: Historically,Israel has had to fight wars against(instigated most often by) multiple countries all at once, vastly outnumbered.I'm pretty sure that is the root of the military aid they recieve.If they did not have top notch military equipment Israel would not exist today.Personally I'm torn on the preservation of a Jewish State issue, while I am atheist,I have strong cultural ties to Judaism, and know that atheist or not, if Jews ever became another target,I would not be spared due to my atheism, the name on my birth certificate would be enough to put me in harms way.I think you need to understand the Jewish mentality, regardless of where Jews live in the world,Israel is considered their only safe haven if the unthinkable ever happened again.You are dealing with a very fragile insecurity in regards to the Jewish relationship to Israel, and that is something that cannot be seperated from the discussion.I do not condone much of Israeli policy in relation to the Palestinians, but to not acknowledge even once in your post the many years of terrorism towards Israel by the PLO, and the environment of distrust that has created towards peace displays an incomplete side of the story, and resolution. 14. Lokakuu 2010, 05:37:08 Otsikko: Re: One sided game The Col: > not acknowledge even once in your post the many years of terrorism towards Israel by the PLO I am well aware of the PLO, suicide bombings, home-made rockets, etc. What I am getting at is the completely lopsided approach that western powers take in the whole issue. As an example, today in the radio (CBC) they were talking about how the Canadian government instigated Lockheed-Martin to provide Israel with 30 state of the art F15 fighters. The F15 is the most sophisticated fighter jet in history. Each fighter comes at a price of about US $150 million and an estimated $300 million in maintenance costs over the lifetime of the plane. These fighter jets are expected to be delivered to Israel within the next 2 years. Contrast this with the fact that since March of 2006 the Canadian government suspended all aid to Palestinians, not that they were giving much to begin with. Such a one-sided approach only aggravates the situation. Western governments want Palestinians to abandon all territorial claims and to be content with whatever scraps of desert Israel feels Palestinians deserve. Israel has undergone a population explosion since the end of the Cold War. Jews have emigrated from Russia and other countries by the thousands and that means that to house them it is necessary to displace Palestinians. Western countries have given Israel carte blanche to do whatever they want and rather than pressuring Israel to change its stance, they are giving Israel more weapons to counteract the rising threat from Iran. The current approach is obviously not working. Any aid given to israel should be matched as aid given to Palestinians. As long as there is injustice there, things will not get better and the current approach to foreign aid is failing. 14. Lokakuu 2010, 06:00:00 Otsikko: Re: One sided game Übergeek 바둑이: What I do find disgusting, is how the Palestinian people, the regular guy on the street, who just wants the love of his family, and a roof over his head, has been used as a pawn by so many Arab countries(and terrorist groups) who couldn't give a damn if they lived or died, but sure like using them.Are you aware of how looked down upon the Palestinians are by their Arab brothers? or a good number of them.Palestinians and Israelis actually don't get along badly in Israel generally speaking, and many Palestinians have attained pretty high standing within Israeli society........but that's not the juicy stuff is it |
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