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8. Huhtikuu 2011, 19:01:13

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Glenn Beck talking about Obama's response to the oil spill in the gulf of Mexico:

"Now wait a minute. Hang on just a second. That’s James Carville talking about Louisiana. Why does Barack Obama hate black people? Is it the white part of Barack Obama? Once again, Louisiana, let me tell you something. If this was happening in the very white state of…"

In May, 2010, Beck's radio show aired a very insulting series of jokes in which Beck mocks Obama's 11-year-old daughter Malia. In it Beck insinuates that Obama hates black people.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005280025

The most recent, and the one that cost Beck his job:

“This president, I think, has exposed himself as a guy, over and over and over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

“I’m not saying that he doesn’t like white people, I’m saying he has a problem. He has a - this guy is, I believe, a racist.”

The following day, Beck stood by the remarks: “I think the president is a racist.”

So President Obama hates both Black and White people.

I am no Sigmund Freud, but it seems to me that in attacking the president Glenn Beck is projecting his own hatred. Beck's vitriolic attacks are an effort to mask his own insecurities and racial prejudice.

8. Huhtikuu 2011, 19:26:29

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Otsikko: Re:

Artful Dodger:

> btw, you got that wrong. YOu really should know what you're talking about first before you post about it.
> This was NOT the main thrust of the full context. So try again.

Here is the original from Glenn Beck's website. Note that in his website Glenn Beck edited a sentence out "Is it the white part of Barrack Obama?". Obviously Mr. Beck did not want to appear racist once he had time to think about what he said live in his radio show.

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/41203/

It is clear, Beck said that Obama hates black people. Well, you can justify this on accounts of the Gulf Oil spill, but what about the tasteless jokes at Malia Obama's expense? "Daddy why do you hate black people?" Clearly Mr. Beck thinks Obama is a racist who hates both black and white people.

Well, the point I was tyring to make is that Mr. Beck has been attacking the president for a long time now, grasping at anything he could to discredit the president. In accusing the president of being a racist, Mr. Beck projects his own racial prejudice.

8. Huhtikuu 2011, 19:33:17

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Otsikko: Re:You don't even understand the full context of the discussion you are quoting and again, you are cherry picking statements and twisting them to suit your own prejudices. Nice.

Artful Dodger: Perhaps you can explain the context and how you see it rather than just say ..."you still have it wrong"

8. Huhtikuu 2011, 19:41:33

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Otsikko: Re:

Artful Dodger:

I understand that Mr. Beck is getting at how both Bush presidents were hammered on accounts of the Exxon-Valdez and Hurricaine Katrina, while Barrack IObama was left relatively unscathed by the BP oil spill. However, Mr. Beck does clearly say that the president hates black people, and further repeats it in that joke at Malia Obama's expense. It is all I am getting at. Beck has called the president a racist both against black and white people. He called justice Sotomayor a racist too. There is a pattern there.

8. Huhtikuu 2011, 19:59:14

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Otsikko: Re:

Artful Dodger:

Sure, I am wrong, then how do you explain what he did in the radio show when he was mocking Malia Obama's voice?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/28/glenn-beck-attacks-presid_n_593587.html

"Daddy? Why do you hate black people so much?"

Who is missing the point? Me and my "ultra liberal" mind? Like I said before, Glen Beck can sound honest and smart through all of his sarcasm. But when stops thinking about what he says, he shows a side of his thinking that points to his deep seated prejudices. In reality it is not only him. Rush Limbaugh has said some things that make Glenn Beck look tame.

9. Huhtikuu 2011, 06:18:24

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Otsikko: Re:

Artful Dodger:

> Forget the huffingtonpost link for now, we'll come back to that.

Yes, we should forget it because that is the one where Glenn Beck says that Obama hates black people, but then, he was just ridiculing Obama's daughter. I guess it doesn't count in your eyes.

> Here's a clue for you and others who are still not getting it: Beck NEVER said Obama hates black people (in the same way you never said it).

I am sure he never said it, except it is his voice in the radio show. Let's for a moment suppose that I am an idiot and I am failing to get the point. If he did not say it in the post about the BP oil spill, what about the one where he mock's Obama's daughter? You can make excuses for the BP spill post, but how do you excuse the Malia Obama post?

I know you admire Glenn Beck. I think he is a smart man. I disagree with his political views, but it does not mean that he lacks knowledge or merit. I think he just lacks good judgement. In his desire to provoke he puts his foot in his mouth more often than not. Still, he has made enough racially insensitive comments to make me wonder just how far his prejudice extends.

9. Huhtikuu 2011, 17:41:09

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Otsikko: Re:I do not admire Beck.

Artful Dodger: I'm sure you've said he's your hero!! ..... after swapping from Bill O'Reilly who was your hero.