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25. Helmikuu 2009, 04:03:35
The Usurper 
Otsikko: Re:
Artful Dodger: I don't believe my criticism of Czuch is ad hominem, because it is true that he does ignore challenging points and he does misrepresent the positions of others. If you like, I could provide a list of things I've directly asked him, or points I've made directly to him, that he ignored, while at the same time trying to trivialize my position by distorting it. And I, for my part, always try to answer him honestly. I may miss something, but never intentionally so.

Nevertheless, I will do my best not to focus on his methods, and try instead to the keep the facts, questions, and challenging of assumptions coming.

As to 9/11, over the last year and a half I've read many books & many articles both on & offline, and I've watched many videos/dvds, short & long. My conviction on the matter did not spring up over night. I expect no one to take my word for anything. But I do believe that truth has its own power. I might present a piece of evidence here that gets someone to thinking...."can that be right?" or, "that's a good point, I hadn't thought of it." If so, it doesn't mean they believe me on my word. But they may pick up another piece of information somewhere else. Eventually, they may decide the question merits serious personal inquiry. And only this serious inquiry, which they themselves initiate, ought to convince them one way or the other.

25. Helmikuu 2009, 06:56:45
Czuch 
Otsikko: Re:
The Usurper: I could provide a list of things I've directly asked him, or points I've made directly to him, that he ignored, while at the same time trying to trivialize my position by distorting it



sure go ahead... be my guest....

25. Helmikuu 2009, 07:05:10
The Usurper 
Otsikko: Re: "sure go ahead... be my guest..."
Czuch: No thanks. Not worth the time.

25. Helmikuu 2009, 07:09:11
Czuch 
Otsikko: Re: "sure go ahead... be my guest..."
The Usurper: No thanks. Not worth the time.

25. Helmikuu 2009, 07:10:22
Czuch 
Otsikko: Re: "sure go ahead... be my guest..."
The Usurper: LOL... its not worth your time to prove your comments against me???

25. Helmikuu 2009, 07:12:25
Czuch 
Otsikko: Re: "sure go ahead... be my guest..."
The Usurper:


Not worth your time time to defend the fact that you hate our government, yet still support its newly found support for socialism?

25. Helmikuu 2009, 07:17:56
The Usurper 
Otsikko: Re: "sure go ahead... be my guest..."
Czuch: Not worth my time to waste it pointing out self-evident truths about your posts. To try to convince YOU? lol Hardly...

25. Helmikuu 2009, 04:15:24
The Usurper 
Otsikko: Re:
Artful Dodger: Ok, but my point is that, if someone does these things, it is evident they are not seriously debating issues.

25. Helmikuu 2009, 04:27:16
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:Ok, but my point is that, if someone does these things, it is evident they are not seriously debating issues.
The Usurper:Unless the topic is old news and they've "been there, done that."  In that case, what's the interest in going over a battle already fought?

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