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13. Syyskuu 2004, 03:10:32
APolaris 
I agree with Stardust here. There is no reason behind it. The point of playing checkers online is to enjoy it and have fun, as well as to develop ability. A person simply copying moves from a checkers engine and playing them on a board is doing neither.

Oh, and gooner (probably Post or some other bum like that who hounds people because he's jealous of them and has nothing better to do)... sorry pal, but two people claiming I use Nemesis (something I don't even have a copy of) doesn't make it true. In fact, I've been helping to run a community to drive people like that OUT of zone, and suggesting to MSN and other sites ways to stop them such as something that can detect checkers engines running in the background. If I were someone who did this, would I be trying to find ways to stop it? This is why I get annoyed by such accusations... because what you accuse me of is the very thing I've been taking time out of my busy schedule for THREE YEARS to PREVENT people from doing! But, as pretty much everyone but yourself and three other people knows, my integrity is unquestionable, and you haven't really convinced anybody to the contrary.

And pointing out that one game was close to what a program would play doesn't "prove" anything. In fact, I can provide you with many games that prove I DO NOT use any form of engine to make moves for me. I do practice by playing against one, which has been the cause of much of my learning.

I should also add that if you were to post that game again, you would find that at least a few moves, when compared to Nemesis' choice, were unaccounted for - that is, there was no comment about them being similar. They were the ones that didn't match. Coincidence? I think not. Additionally, there is the simple fact that I can explain to you the reasoning behind every move I chose. A program user copies moves because the engine analyzes them as "best". I can tell you the reason behind a move I make. A cheat can not.

Simple as that. But if that's not enough... check out the fact that I'm a Christian and, furthermore, an Eagle Scout. My honor is something that is a part of my very identity as a human being and a person on my level of honor would never cheat to get anything. And don't even bring up that crap about a person "using a program only in some games and not in others." I find people who use programs in ANY games offensive and disgusting human beings, and have a very strong opinion that people like that will never get anywhere. And I find it is also most likely true that if a person were to bother using one, they wouldn't bother using it for some games and not others, or for only part of a game. That would just be pointless. Your hounding of me and flaming of every message board I go to gets ridiculous, and I'm tired of being harassed by liars. If you're ever going to post another accusation, post it after, whoever you are, I've played you live. I'll do you one better: play the exact line LIVE with me, whenever I get to play live that is, of the same game you claim I used a program to play. I'll play out the same win move by move and then explain to you why I made each move. No program user could do that.

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