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13. Novembre 2007, 16:27:52
Dolittle 
Sujet: Re: Interviews
pauloaguia: Why should we send in our nomination for the next interviewee if the current interviewee chooses the next one?

13. Novembre 2007, 16:12:22
nabla 
Sujet: Re:
Fencer: I find fair enough that no game rules are changed unless there are pretty strong reasons to. But what procedure do you suggest for proving practically that a game can be improved ? "I've tried it with a friend and it was so much better" doesn't sound that convincing.

13. Novembre 2007, 13:50:58
joshi tm 
Good point.

13. Novembre 2007, 13:49:47
Fencer 
Sujet: Re:
joshi tm: No changes to any game will be made until it is proven that it would be better than the original model. Practically proven.

13. Novembre 2007, 13:47:17
joshi tm 
Dear Fencer, would you like to read these board: http://brainking.nl/nl/Board?bc=6 where we are trying to solve the Cheversi advantage?

13. Novembre 2007, 12:13:32
pauloaguia 
Sujet: Re: Interviews
modifié par pauloaguia (13. Novembre 2007, 12:13:49)
rabbitoid: BrainKing.com (pauloaguia, 2007-10-25 09:43:34)
I don't know what's keeping Fencer from puting it online, you'll have to ask him. But knowing how little he likes to work on side subjects, I'm sure he'll come up with something soon to get rid of that last step in the interviews process. Either that or he's waiting to have a ton of interviews to be published all at once

13. Novembre 2007, 12:13:28
MadMonkey 
Sujet: Re:
pauloaguia: Thats all i could think of, just wanted to find out (thought maybe a bug lol)

Can not have one of my Teams vanishing

13. Novembre 2007, 12:09:42
pauloaguia 
Sujet: Re:
MadMonkey: maybe because it already has enough players to enter? I think (but not sure) that it only shows teams that don't have enough players yet

13. Novembre 2007, 12:00:00
Vikings 
Sujet: Re: Interviews
rabbitoid: maybe I gave a wrong answer

13. Novembre 2007, 11:43:19
MadMonkey 
Sujet: Re: Interviews
rabbitoid: It says above that vikings answers have gone to Fencer and waiting to be put online

13. Novembre 2007, 11:39:07
rabbitoid 
Sujet: Re: Interviews
pauloaguia: what ever happened to the Vikings interview?

13. Novembre 2007, 11:00:14
MadMonkey 
Just going through the upcoming Team Tournaments and noticed something.
Normally when looking at a sign up page (where we sign the Teams), it shows all Teams entered so far and also Team that are open to join.
I just looked at the Halma 10x10 one, BUT can not see the Madhouse Team in either list.
We already have the 4 players needed, but as it has not been entered yet, should it not show on the 'Open Teams to join' list

12. Novembre 2007, 20:29:50
Andersp 
Sujet: Re: Interviews
pauloaguia:

12. Novembre 2007, 20:23:42
Papa Zoom 
Sujet: Re: Interviews
pauloaguia:   

12. Novembre 2007, 17:42:01
MadMonkey 
Sujet: Re: Interviews
pauloaguia:

12. Novembre 2007, 11:59:04
pauloaguia 
Sujet: Interviews
I'll be sending Pbarb her interview later today. So you can stop sending questions for her now.
A big "Thank you" to all who sent their questions so far, it turned up to be quite a lot bigger than it was just last week. I'm sure PBarb will appreciate all the questions, I know I like how it turned out.


And now it's time to announce the next nominee.


The guy you should be very courious to know even more about.

Someone well known to these boards and to the site.

The reason why I'm probably going to have my MessageBox floaded with questions in the next few weeks.

The person who will get an interview as a Christmas present (all questions to be sent until December 23rd, please)


[Oh, in the meantime don't forget you can cast a vote for the next person to be interviewed at anytime - the next person to be interviewed will be selected from the ones with more votes - all the votes cast so far are still valid and will move on to the other interviews]

[Oh, and about the questions - don't leave it to the last minute. If you want questions to have your name start sending them now. I've had to turn down quite a few questions these past few days because people kept asking the same things over and over again, so whoever comes first (or has the best version of a question) will be the one the question is authored to.]


So, back on toppic:


By popular demand (and PBarb's decision), the next person to be interviewed will be:


... brace yourselves...




MadMonkey ! !


So, start sending me messages with suggestions for other persons to be interviewed and questions for MadMonkey 's interview.
You have until December 23rd to send questions for this interview but you can start sending them now

10. Novembre 2007, 23:09:15
rod03801 
Sujet: Re: random game teams
coan.net: Unfair?? People aren't chained to a team once they join it. If they want to go to another one, when there are more, they can easily do it. I think it would be a big pain in the neck to have them all deleted, to be started over. And needless. (And possibly difficult to re-get those people, especially since there wouldn't be any record of who already (willingly) joined.)

So, I hope that DOESN'T happen! You may as well say "Stop it! Don't be doing this now!" When there really is no good reason to do that.

10. Novembre 2007, 23:01:58
coan.net 
Sujet: Re: random game teams
redfrog: Not everyone can make the team - first they have to know about it - which includes reading this board, which there are many that do not - plus there are others who possible don't understand how to mess with the URL of a page. So to make it sound like "well since I heard about it - everyone must have heard about it" does not really work.

Plus I'm not arguing about it - I was just adding my input that I hope Fencer clears it out before it is officially put out... that is all. What people want to do is of course up to them, I was just adding my suggestion on what I would like to see done.

10. Novembre 2007, 22:48:24
redfrog 
Sujet: Re: random game teams
I think anyone who wants to make one of these random teams can do it now - so thats not really unfair - are we all so upset because we think the rules of the classic school yard pick are being messed with? Are we afraid we will only be left with losers to play on our teams? Im pretty sure the people joining up on these random teams did so out of choice - not because they were picked out of a lineup and had no choice but to comply - isnt that they way all teams are formed? Everyone can make this team if they want to - and everyone can pick what team they want to be on - geeeezzz - why all the drama?

10. Novembre 2007, 22:14:56
coan.net 
Sujet: Re: random game teams
Hrqls:Well hopefully when a random team is added, Fencer will just erase all current ones to make it fair to all fellowships in the chance to get people to join theirs - without having a few fellowship get a big head start in getting players to join - and in turn putting other fellowships at a disadvantage to get players to join their team.

10. Novembre 2007, 19:41:39
Hrqls 
Sujet: Re: random game teams
some people (including me) asked for random teams as it seemed a nice addition to the team of single game types .. this would make it possible to create team tournaments in which the teams would play random games .. fun! ;)

it was suggested this to fencer only a few weeks ago .. so i was positively amazed that it was in the progress of being implemented already .. its great when a site owner listens to suggestions from its members and implements some of them
(some of my suggestions havent been implemented, its up to fencer to decide what would be a nice addition :))

madmonkey found the random teams by accident and shared it on this board .. which is a nice thing to do .. that way the random team isnt only accessable for a few members, but every fellowship can create his random team
(go to a team of your fellowship and in the url change the number of the team to 255 .. you can see which number when you compare the urls of 2 teams of the same fellowships) .. i joined a random team as well .. after i read madmonkeys post (in which he explained how to do it)

the random teams are still in the progress of being created though and isnt completely active yet .. thats why fencer probably didnt announce it in public yet

any member is free to explore the site .. and it would be nice if (s)he finds anything (s)he would post it on a board (if its a bug it would be best to post it in the bug tracker) if its something which can be abues dont post it on a public board though but send in a pm .. if its something nice (like this random teams .. which gives a little insight in the future :)) .. post it here (or somewhere else)

i think its great that this site is still developing and new things are being added

10. Novembre 2007, 11:42:48
pauloaguia 
Sujet: Interviews
It's still not a huge interview but I think I have enough questions for Bubbles Pbarb2 . Anybody still wanting to contribute, please send me your questions during this weekend...

I'll be announcing the next person next week.

10. Novembre 2007, 00:33:22
Nirvana 
Sujet: Re: random game teams
This issue seems to me to have been blown a tad out of proportion.

I saw Mad Monkey's post to do with it and thought it an interesting idea. With his help I set up one team in each of my fellowships to see if the members wanted them. Judging from the way people have joined the teams it appeals to quite a few.

9. Novembre 2007, 21:51:52
alanback 
Sujet: Re: Random game teams
WellyWales:  I have to confess I am totally befuddled about the uproar over this issue.  Seems to me some folks with a lot of time on their hands are making a huge fuss over nothing.  Think of directing all that reforming energy out into the real world where it could actually do some good ...

Having said that, this is a user-supported site, and I would expect Fencer to take the users' wishes into account.  What I would prefer not to see is the same people posting the same complaint over and over again.

9. Novembre 2007, 21:48:09
WellyWales 
Sujet: Random game teams
All this does not seem right to me, we all want this to be a fair game site equal to all.

I propose that Fencer scrap all Random Game teams, there should not be a way of building up teams before it is open to every fellowship, I can see this being abused,
I think we all want a level playing field here

9. Novembre 2007, 21:08:49
TarantinoFan 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
alanback:

9. Novembre 2007, 21:07:50
ScrambledEggs 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
alanback:

9. Novembre 2007, 21:05:12
alanback 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
TarantinoFan:  You could call the testing fellowship the "Beta Blockers" 

9. Novembre 2007, 21:04:49
Andersp 
Sujet: Re:

TarantinoFan:   Whatever we call it  "certain user" / "Troll" / "Tester" doesnt really matter :)   but to divide members into "we" and "they" is never  good .


I think my fellowship idea should minimize the risque that something goes "public" before it was meant to.


9. Novembre 2007, 21:03:53
TarantinoFan 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
Snoopy: And these things need to be tried out. As I said with the current feeling on BK at the moment, releasing a new thing that doesn't work would only cause more problems.

I think Andersp idea of a testing f/s is a good one. I would be part of that to try out things and work out bugs and help tweak the games to make them right before they are realeased

9. Novembre 2007, 21:00:20
TarantinoFan 
Sujet: Re:
Andersp: I am not one of Fencer's Testers. In fact just the other day I was a "certain user".

Your idea has merit though. Because I thought of exactly the same thing.

9. Novembre 2007, 20:58:55
ScrambledEggs 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
pauloaguia:
i might well of missed the point of the very first post on this and im sorry to anyone if i did
but i saw another case of cloning gammon happening again where ppl got to play that game before the masses

9. Novembre 2007, 20:57:43
Andersp 

Maybe its better to create a fellowship where Fencer and his "testers" can discuss "not public" features.


I think it should be better than sending Pms..or?


9. Novembre 2007, 20:53:30
TarantinoFan 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
Snoopy: We know GOD and he gave us the down low on upcoming creations!

9. Novembre 2007, 20:53:12
pauloaguia 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
modifié par pauloaguia (9. Novembre 2007, 20:53:22)
Snoopy: they aren't trying... they're just exploring bugs... but if you want to try it to, just add the string tp=255 to the end of your fellowship page URL and you'll find a "random game" team you can join to... but that you can do nothing with :P

9. Novembre 2007, 20:52:40
TarantinoFan 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
Snoopy: I'm sure if you had done what Nirvana and I both did, ie PM Mad Monkey, he would have told you the exact same thing he told us. It doesn't work yet but here's how to do it anyway.

9. Novembre 2007, 20:48:54
ScrambledEggs 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
modifié par ScrambledEggs (9. Novembre 2007, 20:50:34)
TarantinoFan:
and the point im making and will keep making it
however it was found why should one fellowship or now 3 have an advantage over every other fellowship
and has Madmonkey said earlier it dosnt actually exist on BK yet how can you try out something that dosnt exist

9. Novembre 2007, 20:48:09
alanback 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
Snoopy:  I'll give ya $5 for it!

9. Novembre 2007, 20:43:41
TarantinoFan 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
Snoopy: Please stop shouting.

This random team was found by accident when Mad Monkey was doing a completely different thing.

He started his team as an experiment to see what would happen.

Nirvana and I both found the concept interesting so we PM'd Mad Monkey to ask about it.

Mad Monkey and I set up a team to see if the challenge would even start yet. As you know by reading the original message that has caused all this drama, nothing has happened with that challenge as yet.

My message to Mad Monkey on the subject was to leave it and wait and see. All great things come from trial and error. If we have it ready to go we can test it and let Fencer know of any bugs etc so that he can release it to the paying members in good order and without a lot of bugs etc.

I'm sorry that you find our experiments so detrimental to the other f/s but I think releasing an untested, untried new thing on the site at the moment would be a lot more detrimental, not only to your f/s but also to the site as a whole. With the recent upset over BK being down quite a lot a new thing that doesn't work properly wouldn't go down very well with the frustrated paying customer.

9. Novembre 2007, 20:41:39
ScrambledEggs 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
Andersp:
i swap my black rook for anything right now

9. Novembre 2007, 20:39:56
Andersp 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
MadMonkey:   I would rather be a computer engineer than a Black Rook, so i absolutely dont consider myself better than you!

9. Novembre 2007, 20:33:17
ScrambledEggs 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
MadMonkey:
i was not trying to create trouble and i was not butting in
i was asking why one fellowship should have a very clear advantage of building up a team on what is NOT AVAILABLE TO EVERY PAYING CUSTOMER

9. Novembre 2007, 20:30:19
alanback 
Sujet: Re:
MadMonkey:  You are quite correct to conclude that messages intended only for one person should not be posted publicly.  (With the possible exception of Thoughts and Prayers.)  Message boards are intended for everyone to read and comment on anything posted here.

9. Novembre 2007, 20:25:42
Mousetrap 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
modifié par Mousetrap (9. Novembre 2007, 20:26:08)
MadMonkey: I do not agree. I did not reply to cause conflit. If someone does not agree with what I say as you don,t. That is not conflit to me. That is your right as is Snoppy,s or anyone elses.

9. Novembre 2007, 20:24:43
Andersp 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
MadMonkey:  Even we "Certain users" / Trolls appreciate that you are helping Fencer build Brain King, please accept our sincere THANK YOU!

9. Novembre 2007, 20:10:29
MadMonkey 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
Mousetrap: If i address this to you (as i have), i expect you to read it and reply if you wish, as i would any form of communication addressed to anyone individually.

Some just reply to things to create problems & conflict as this has just proved

9. Novembre 2007, 20:04:31
Mousetrap 
Sujet: Re: Pming and butting in with trivial comments
MadMonkey: Everyone is alowed their say. Just because someone does not agree with you does not mean they are butting in. It would not pay for all trees to be privots.

9. Novembre 2007, 19:40:44
MadMonkey 
Fencer: Sorry about this post earlier that was addressed to you

In future i will PM you about everything as others can not help butting in with trivial comments

The idea of this board is for everybody who is interested in BrainKing itself, its structure, features and future or is it not

OR is it about sulking because others are trying to help build BrainKing and others are not, they find more fun in moaning rather than trying to improve things

Well according to some, JUST because they have a Black Rook it makes them better than everyone else, well let them think that.

I know personally what do for the site

If there are issues that need addressing by yourself or just need mentioning, i will do it if i think it is necessary.

Try to think constructive, then things may happen


9. Novembre 2007, 18:44:13
ScrambledEggs 
Sujet: Re:
Andersp:
yep
being a black rook sucks big time

9. Novembre 2007, 18:26:30
Andersp 
Sujet: Re:
Snoopy: Remember there are "Certain users" 

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