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Hi. I know that words "been" and "bin" have different pronounciations. Now, in movies or generally spoken english I fail to notice any difference between them. Is there still a difference there or am I right in thinking that in fast and connected speech, 'bin' and 'been' are pronounced exactly the same?

17. Août 2006, 00:49:46

Carl

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King Reza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_differences Just because it's in the "movies" does'nt make it true.Try this,i hope it clears a few things up.

17. Août 2006, 13:09:35

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Carl:That's why I was asking! I as a non-native speak English far better than some of the guys in American movies.

Thanks for the link.

17. Août 2006, 08:25:39

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King Reza: Not really.... think of been like the name Ben, rhymes with den, hen, fen...

bin rhymes with tin sin pin, you get the idea...
anyway, even in fast connected speech, these words are clearly discernible to the native ear.

17. Août 2006, 13:18:16

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Czuch Czuckers: Very interesting. I have indeed noticed that some people have their own special accent. Some pronounce certain vowels shorter than other people do, some pronounce them longer. Thanks for the examples.

17. Août 2006, 13:35:23

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King Reza: Where I am from,, in new england, and especially in the far north east of new england in Maine, we are famous for not pronouncing our 'Rs'in many words.

For example the word 'car' is often pronounced as 'cah'
There is a good sentence we use.... 'Pahk your cah in havahd yahd' to illistrate this point!

Also the 'er' ending in words is often pronounced more like 'ah', as in mothah or fathah.
Anyway, just one more challenge for the non native speaker ;)

17. Août 2006, 13:40:24

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Czuch Czuckers:I thought you were American! Yes, I'm very familiar with the British accent. I used to have major problems understanding even what the whole sentence pronounced was about, but I've gotten quite used to it. In fact, I always use Oxford Advanced Learners and think it gives better pronunciations for words. Just checked' Been' with it. It says:

Been: /bi:n/ or AmE: /bin/

Bin: /bin/

So I think I was somehow right.

17. Août 2006, 14:09:26

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King Reza: lmao..... new England is the north east states in the US! Maine new Hampshire Vermont Rhode island massachusetts and Connecticut. Maine is the farthest north and east of them all.

17. Août 2006, 14:31:41

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Czuch Czuckers:Ok, now I'm confused. Do people in the States drop 'r' sounds just like British people?
Do you have intrusive R's too?

Like do you ever say something like "Law r and order?"

17. Août 2006, 08:31:39

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King Reza: I guess though, you may have heard someone with a 'southern accent' who spoke with what we call a drawl, and they may pronounce the word been to sound like bin....

17. Août 2006, 15:11:38

Pedro Martínez

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King Reza: Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_accent

18. Août 2006, 20:46:20