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gogul: Honest would be to admit the problems in mostly poorer countries, climate change is causing. We will suffer the problems anyway and should face them honestly. For the sake of our .. hmmm .. soul, we should overcome national fence thinking. Get over your nationalism, the resulting populism is a sick stupidity, while we do have the means to address the problems globaly.
Artful Dodger: Sinking islands are not "junk science". Melting water reservoirs are not junk science. Shifting seasons are not junk science to farmers. Spread of desert is not junk science.
gogul: We've seen these things before in the history of the world. Climate changes. Normal cycyle. Nothing new. Man made? That's where the junk science comes in.
Sujet: Re:So.. can you personally prove the 97% wrong without changing the subject?
Artful Dodger: I know enough of chemistry to know that you cannot pollute or add to a closed environment (as in the atmosphere is covered by a vacuum) ....and have no effect.
Sujet: Re:So.. can you personally prove the 97% wrong without changing the subject?
(V): Here's a fact for you: 97% to 98% of climate researchers (if not more) are paid by the government and climate interest groups to support and to advance the global warming hypothesis and, guess what, they do.
Sujet: Re:97% to 98% of climate researchers (if not more) are paid by the government and climate interest groups to support and to advance the global warming hypothesis
Artful Dodger: You do have some proof of this? Some article or leak from an reputable source >>> not like Bush and his Fake WMD's <<<
As for Al Gore... that means everyone else is wrong because a politician beefed things up... Like those old WWII films stating the good old USA won the war purely by being the USA!!
Golly. How many politicians beef things up.... Or like with Palin stating that she ain't decided on whether she's running or not and please donate.
But her Daughter leaked by accident that she does know, it is decided.
Sujet: Re:So.. can you personally prove the 97% wrong without changing the subject?
(V): (V) (hide)show this user posts | show thread | linkSubject: Re:So.. can you personally prove the 97% wrong without changing the subject? Artful Dodger: can you prove the 97% of climatologists who say you are wrong wrong then? Reply (box)
Sujet: Re:I know enough of chemistry to know that you cannot pollute or add to a closed environment (as in the atmosphere is covered by a vacuum) ....and have no effect.
(V): In other words, man made global warming is true because you own a car???
Artful Dodger: "We've seen these things before in the history of the world. Climate changes. Normal cycyle. Nothing new. Man made? That's where the junk science comes in."
I feel with you
Disastrous pollutions, we should agree on that, are man made. It appears that nothing on this world could mess us up, although, certain toys are not in trustable hands. Just like soups and Bernice. Who could stand the poison.
Artful Dodger: You can say that global climate change is not affecting your region, if it really was the case. But it is elsewhere, and if we don't address these problems, we will be surprised about refugees. I know how populism works. They will let the mob bash these refugees. And I will bash the populists.