Czuch:

“You seem to tell us that conservatives are wrong somehow because we dont take into account changes like evil corporations and the federal reserve, in our society since our countries founding, but you dont seem to explain in what way we dont take them into account”

I did explain in what way. You don’t recognize how they are systems designed to funnel the wealth from the working man to the mega-rich, how insidious is the process, or how devastating its impact. I say you don’t recognize it because there is no evidence that you do. So alien is the concept to you, you couldn’t even make sense of my clear exposition on the point.

“[N]or do you explain in what way liberals have taken them into account in a better way”

I have not been discussing Liberals at all. My focus has been entirely on Conservatives. Liberals have their own issues, and in some ways their worldview is deeply flawed also, in my opinion. But I have not analyzed it here. Nor do I consider myself flawless. I am always learning. God forbid I fall into the mental rut of a typical conservative.

“[W]e dont say that if you dont work you shouldnt eat... we say its just not the responsibility of the federal government to feed you!”

I hope you WOULD say, “if you don’t work you shouldn’t eat,” because that is the case, unless a person is too young or incapacitated in some way. But that is right, you make the case that it isn’t the government’s responsibility to feed people. That is the argument that I am attempting to counter in my long-winded exposition (not fully developed, the second part completed hopefully tonight.)

This will thrill Lisa G…

My general point is that it is humanity’s duty to “feed humanity,” i.e., to be one’s brothers’ keeper, in all that entails, and to use any & all powers and avenues we have available to do so. And, that unless, and until, we do so, we are failing our neighbors. And the more particular charge that I am leveling against Conservatives is that the line they put between public & private charity is antiquated, is simplistic, is a double standard, and is inadequate. I further charge that this false line masks conservative hypocrisy, in that betrays a real & fundamental lack of empathy for those who suffer. I don’t mean all conservatives lack this empathy. But conservative leaders certainly do, and it is the general mindset of modern American Conservatism.

In the second half of my argument, I will further charge that conservatives are also hypocritical in considering themselves “compassionate,” in that the evidence indicates they would prefer blowing up civilians in other countries to feeding & clothing civilians here.

“You make it sound as if liberals are just a more modern thinking conservative, that you have taken conservatism to a new and higher and better level?”

Again, I have not been discussing Liberalism. But in most ways, I think you may be right on that. Liberals have their faults, but in general they are more advanced in their thinking than Conservatives, and more aware of the complexities of the modern world. They are also, in general, more empathetic towards those who suffer.

“Conservatives also do not deny any child education or health care, no matter their parents situation....”

They certainly do. I think I explained it pretty clearly in my long post. But here’s a case in point: Conservatives resist Universal Health Care, even though multiple millions of children have no insurance. And many of these children need care NOW, not perhaps tomorrow or the next day when some private philanthropist happens to be in a good mood.