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oddson2003: It is OK - in Czech Checkers, you must capture with your queen if you can ("preference rule" in the table of specific rules of checkers variants)

http://brainking.com/en/GameRules?tp=29

In my last game of czech checkers, I had a situation where I could take an opponents checker with either my Queen checker or with an ordinary checker, the system only allowed me to move the Queen checker, is this a bug or is it part of the rules of the game.

Pedro Martínez: That's a pity - however I admit that such a situation occurs very rarely. Any idea why it takes Fencer so long to fix this bug? In Turkish checkers, jumped opponent's pieces are removed during the move so this functionality is already implemented at BK...

Pedro Martínez: Thanks for your correction - I wrote my answer in a hurry and didn't read it over before posting...

Hexis: Not “replaced”, but “removed”. :)

And the bug has not been fixed yet. Pieces are still removed right after you jump a piece, not after the entire move is made.

mangue: You're welcome :)

And there is one more important rule regarding jumps in Czech checkers - the opponent's pieces that you have already jumped over are removed from the board AFTER the whole move is finished (in contrast to, e.g., Turkish checkers where they are removed during the jump and thus creating new jumping opportunities). However I am not sure whether this particular rule is correctly implemented here on BrainKing right now (several weeks ago I reported the bug concerning removing jumped opponent's pieces from the board during the jump to Fencer - he asked me for a link to official rules of Czech Checkers, I provided him with the link and since then I have received no other feedback from him ...)

Here is an example of this "unimplenmented" rule from one of my games:
Dáma (Hexis vs. Hackingnop)

(according to the official rules the move I was forced to play by BrainKing was illegal - I should have finished my jump at b4 (or somewhere else at the particular diagonal) because the already jumped pawn at e7 should be removed from board after my jump will be finished and therefore prevents me from jumping over the pawn at d6 ...)!

thanks Hexis, it clarifies a lot ! I wish I knew it before :)

mangue: If you have an opportunity to continue jumping, you must do so....

However, you don't have to make a maximum jump in Czech checkers like in some other variants of checkers (International, Turkish, Portuguese ...). In particular, if you have more possibilities to jump, then
1) must capture with your queen (even a single jump, no matter that you can make a multi-jump with your pawn)
2) if you have more queens to perform a jump, you can choose any you like (no matter how many jumps you can do with this particular queen compared to other queens)
3) if you choose a queen to jump with and jump over an opponent's piece, you can land anywhere you want only if there is no possibilty to continue with another jump (otherwise, like in the game you asked about, you must continue jumping; if there are more landing squares from which you can jump again, you can choose any of them arbitrarily, no matter how many jumps you will finally do in your move...)

I hope that it is understandable. If not, don't hesitate to ask again ;-)

why cannot I play Qh2xb8 in Czech Checkers (Dundee vs. mangue) ? at move 27black ?

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Can you understand the main differens between Classic checkers and Czech Checkers?

!Undertaker!: Unfortunately it really seems that Ustica has very poor knowledge about endgames in this checkers variant which really surprises me ...
In every checkers club even small children are taught that ending of 3 queens vs 1 queen where the weaker side controls the main diagonal a1-h8 is a draw (except from several pathological cases of course ...). Ustica's ignorance of this simple fact is really surprising! :-)))

Gabriel Almeida: yes, I don't understand. With a queen in river is impossible lose that game.
With 5 years I already knew that.

!Undertaker!: ahahahah... That's incredible. How can someone with that BKR tell something like that?

Ustica didn't accept draw this game...
Damas Checas (ustica tnp vs. !Undertaker!)

He told me that he has 3 pieces and I only have 1, so he must win.
I'm looking forward to see that exploit.

The bug has already been resolved - Fencer cancelled that illegal move! We must hope that it was only a rare exception and that the same problem won't arise in the future again ... :-)))

Hello everybody!

I would like to inform you about a serious bug in Czech Checkers I discovered when playing one of my games. In fact, BrainKing allows users to play illegal moves! Here is an example:

Dáma (ibraim vs. Hexis)

Although my opponent had to play 16. h2xf4 (the only legal move according to the rules), the system let him play 16. b2-c3 instead of it. I really don't know how is it possible and whether it is only a problem in Czech Checkers or in several other variants of Checkers too. I have never seen a similar bug in my Checkers games so far.

Has anyone of you a similar experience?

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sobek: and also, these games are not considered good play - they were games played in kurnik in a fast timer...so they should be a bit sloppy.

sobek: When would you like to meet in kurnik?

Grandmaestro:
Grandmaestro, Your sample games has more errors!! More time are winning position. Exist about czech draughts 2 new books. first Guide about czech draughts and second Openning theorie in Czech draughts. First is complete for all players, is all in book and second is first complete openning theorie about czech draughts. Merry Xmas and Happy New Year and I hope, that we meet in real online server, in kurnik :-)

Grandmaestro: Here are some games I played - using some gambit opening lines:

Using the "Fife" man-down opening - A well known, strong gambit in English Checkers style.

1. 24-19 10-14 2. 22-18 11-16 3. 28-24 16-20 4. 19-15
{Fife Opening - Inviting the gambit.} 14-17 5. 21x14 7-10 6. 14x7 3x28
{Gambit accepted! This is a well known opening line used in English Checkers.} 7.
25-22 8-11 8. 29-25 9-13 {Black probably had better with 4-8.} 9. 18-14 2-7 10. 25-21
6-10 11. 23-18 10x17 12. 21x14 4-8 13. 26-23 12-16 14. 31-26 8-12 15. 23-19 16x23 16.
26x19 11-16 17. 27-23 20-24 18. 19-15 13-17 19. 22x13 24-27 20. 15-10 7-11 21. 10-7 27-31
22. 7-3 31-20 23. 14-9 5x14 24. 3x21 20-24 25. 21-3
{Now seems like a drawn game with a lot of potential for an interesting ending with the flying kings.}

And another game, with another known gambit used for English Checkers...

[Event ""]
[Date ""]
[Black ""]
[White ""]
[Result "*"]
1. 22-18 10-14 2. 25-22 12-16 3. 24-20 16-19 4. 23x16 14x23 5. 26x19 8-12 6. 31-26 6-10 7.
29-25 9-13 8. 27-24 4-8 {Red is man-down but has very strong positional advantage.}
9. 32-27 11-15 10. 26-23 8-11 11. 21-17 {Running out of moves!} 5-9 12. 23-18 9-14 13.
18x9 2-6 14. 9x2 1-6 15. 2x9 15-18 16. 9x23 10-15 17. 19x10 12x26 18. 30x23 7x30 19. 23-18
30-21 20. 20-16 11x20 21. 18-15 21-30 22. 27-23 30x1 23. 24-19 1x24 24. 28x19 20-24 25.
19-15 24-27 26. 15-10 27-31 27. 10-7 31x17 28. 7-2 17-22 29. 2-20 22-4 30. 20-24 4-25 31.
24-10 25-18 32. 10-21 18-8 33. 21-14 8-25 34. 14-21 25-15 35. 21-30 15-4 36. 30-19
{White maybe escapes for a draw - but it's worth a try for Black.} *

Now, a not-so popular line played in Checkers - but another very drawable and strong gambit....

[Event ""]
[Date ""]
[Black ""]
[White ""]
[Result "*"]
1. 22-18 12-16 2. 25-22 8-12 3. 29-25 10-14 4. 24-20 6-10 5. 18-15 10x19 6. 22-17 2-6 7.
17x10 6x15 8. 21-17 9-13 9. 17-14 1-6 10. 25-22 6-10 11. 30-25 10x17 12. 25-21 7-10 13.
21x7 3x10 14. 27-24 5-9 15. 22-18 15x22 16. 24x6 22-25 17. 31-27 9-14 18. 6-2 14-17 19. 2-7
17-21 20. 7-3 25-29 21. 3-10 21-25 22. 10-21 25-30 23. 23-19 30x23 24. 27x18 29x24 25.
28x19 16x23 26. 21-7 12-16 27. 7-21 23-26 28. 21-30 26-31
{And the game would eventually draw} *

All games in PDN format

Does anyone have some interesting and intriguing games they would like to share for the forum here.

Or perhaps some of you can share some opening theory or interesting openings in Czech draughts style. Czech is very intersting variant - a cross between English Checkers and Russian/Brazilian Draughts.

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:) Do you want to play some Czech Draughts at www.kurnik.org shinzen ?

I think
1. Grandnaestro :-)
2. big Grandmaestro :-)
3.super big Grandmaestro :-)

1. Grandmaestro

2. Ferjo

3. Sobek

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Grandmaestro: No.

Is it possible to reset your own BKR(s) back to default "unrated" state.

mangue: Well... he could answered me that! ;)

Gabriel Almeida: Why doesn't Fencer do anything

because there is nothing to do, afaik, it is impossible to detect if someone use a computer here

Gabriel Almeida: Thank you for understanding this discussion is not useful here. You might note that no one is posting about Czech Checkers but rather are posting flames, insults, cheating accusations, moderator concerns and everything else under the sun. All Global Moderators are accessable to everyone as is Nightstorm the main moderator and it is to them that the issues which bother you need to be directed.

Dear, be hard to defend against false accusation, above all when well I don't know English. With Mr Sobkem I have personal problems, and smoothing-out is in this way, forbid me. Indeed I'm about to law steps to already once for always do for. Your games I am step by step finish. Soon will you know truth who's that Mr Sobek. Thank for Your time.

If you encounter a cheater - avoid playing them as much as possible, and tell all your friends via private messages and let the usual tournament directors know so they know not include them in their tournaments.

It's impossible to prove 100% for a fact that a person is cheating in online games - so accusing someone publicly on a discussion board like this is worse than cheating in itself...what if you're wrong?

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Play with your head, it´s easy and exercise your brain. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Try it

sure I understand, I hate cheaters too

but you can do nothing, just keep playing with your friends

mangue: I don't want war. However, I think everybody have to know who use programs. Now, I know more players what supostly use programs, but many players don't know and I think nobody wants play against players that use programs. But it's only my opinion. Thanks for your help :)

I better play against a human with computer as against a human accusing me to be a cheater if I win. I second Purple argument, do not miss respect to your opponent.

If you want to avoid cheaters, try to play some exotic variants like parachute checkers or anti-checkers, there are surely very few efficient program there!

 

Or try to play with some opponents you trust and who trust you and add the cheaters to your blocked users list

B L I T Z M E: I think the same