DMatt: Funnier how someone felt they had to open a bogus account to point out something that means nothing.

Stardust: Correct!!

DMatt: Nice try lol! Both points are true but going into detail will just bore me. 10 out of 10 for effort though.

gooner: I waited 90 minutes in the hotel lobby off of Island avenue. You failed to mention that you did not make the reservation (maybe your girlfriend did?) so the hotel clerk could not find your name in the register.

Who was avoiding who?

And I have pictures of the World Checkers Champion visiting me on December 18, 2004. Funny, I can't play checkers, but Alex feels it necessary to make a trek to my house (with maybe 7 days notice) just to see how good I am.

Furthermore, he asked me to annotate what he considered his best game he has played. You can read about it here:

http://www.usacheckers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=609&start=15&sid=fe667613241dda0b193e9a2c000f182c

So I can't play checkers but the World Champion asks me to annotate his own game for his own book.

Care to explain that?

DMatt: By all means. He said to my father during a meeting while at a tournament that you were know more than a good novice player. Its amazing what computers can do. On the other subject a meeting was never arranged you seem to live in a world of fantasy. End of discussion.

gooner:

1. When Alex visited me, I had been recovering from re-injuring a previously broken back. Did he tell you that I could not even stand up straight the whole time he was there?

2. His son was with him, and we played chess and Gothic Chess for at least 2 hours. There was much beer and chatter, nothing much about checkers even started until about 10 PM.

3. I showed him the perfect play databases in my computer lab upstairs. He had to spot me a 3 minute head start for me to even get there!

4. Some of the most difficults wins in the 4x3 database Alex could not win against the program. He was impressed. At this point, he asked if I wanted some games with him. Back down the stairs we went.

5. I did not have a checkers set, nor did he. We played on a chess board using only pawns. At first Alex gave me 10 minute to 3 minute odds. Even in my injured state, I had a won 6x6 ending against him, and we both stopped the clock. The next game was played at 5 min to 5 min, which I resigned, the next at 5 min to 3 min, to a 6-piece draw.

How this translates to a "good novice player" I don't know. Maybe because of my loss I walked into an easy shot in the endgame, but the other 2 games I thought I played well above the mark, given that he was crowned World Champion not too long before and I had effectively not played much in months.

6. You told me the name of the hotel, the address, and the dates you would be there. You left no phone number or any other way to contact you. I drove down there, you weren't there.

Amazing how the sands of time allow you to re-write history. Just take a look at both of your posts.

DMatt: Thanks for the excuse Ed, but if you want me to go into details I can. You have shown yourself up on checker discussion boards for a very long time now and are always trying to convince others (or maybe yourself) that you are a good checker player. Maybe you are or not who cares but why keep persisting in name dropping and boasting. Great players I have met have one thing in common and that is the art of not trying to convince others they are great they just show on the board at real tournaments face to face thats the difference.

As far as this so called meeting and giving you dates is concerned, proof would be nice as I find that statement very funny as my (girlfriend) as you put it would duly back me up.

gooner:

I am not always trying to convince anyone of anything. People that lose to me are the ones trying to say "he must be using a computer."

What computer was I using when I defeated the Deep Thought chess supercomputer in 1989 when I played it in front of about 100 people?

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1272214

What computer program was I using when I beat Chinook on October 20, 1996? (see the link Purple posted to the Wall of Honor). If you count from the bottom up you will see I was the 5th or 6th person to ever defeat it on the highest setting.

I would like to remind you that it was this feat that put me in touch with Gil Dodgen. He was impressed with my win, and we agreed to collaborate on a new checkers program, WCC. We relased it as a Macintosh program in August of 1997 and a PC program in September 1997.

Year later, when visiting Gil at his home in southern California, he asked me to play WCC an 11-man ballot game on a computer that was averaging 400,000 positions per second. Not only did I get a draw with it, I predicted 12 moves it must make in order to secure this draw. Don't take my word for it, ask him yourself. His email is GilDodgen@cox.net and I'm sure he will vouch for my playing abilities.

I don't understand why you keep saying you made no such arrangements to meet and play checkers. Then why did you say I was "reluctant"? You told me you were coming to Philadelphia, you said you wanted to play, and I agreed.

Once you got here, I did not hear from you.

So what?

I have had players try and meet me before. I was in Kansas City in 2001 and I called Al Lyman. He could not play because he said he was going to some log cabin with a son-in-law or something. Leo Levitt wanted to meet with me one time, but his wife had to be taken to the hospital, and he could not swing by.

I didn't accuse them of fabricating anything. Stuff happens.

And if I am such and "amateur", as you say, just answer me this one question:

Why did the current World Champion ask me to annotate one of his favorite games?

I would love to hear your conspiracy theory on that one.

DMatt: To your final question my answer is WCC!

You seem to have a short memory aswell, let me refresh it... I have actually complimented you on this board aswell or don't you actually want to discuss that? Is it just negative behaviour you react to?

I know what I wrote in messages to you as you at first claimed it would be a waste of time me playing you because of your so called ability but the difference is, I would always prefer to play stronger players to further my game as I would learn more from losing those games as winning against lesser opponents.

btw... I met Ron King once!! What does that mean?

DMatt: Alex Moiseyev once sent me a message at the ACF Forum regarding Ed Trice.



This should solve any confusion:



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<span>"Concern your question about Ed Trice. I can't
tell that he is my close friend. We played very actively online back to
1997-2001. I played with WCC on Mac Banks ladder. Ed also often helped
me with WCC 10 pieces database to analyse some positions. And finally,
one time, when I visited my old son in Phili, we both came to Ed house
and spent one evening.


It was wonderful time. I met him and his family (wife and
daughter). All I can tell you - his personality is: "heavvy nurd". He
likes jokes, fooling people etc. But he is really nice person. We
played couple checkers games, and I wouldn't rate his level higher than
"very advance novice" <img>


When I played with him online at the end of 90's, it was obvious to
me, that he uses program. In fact - he tested program. So - for him it
wasn't wasting time or fooling only. But he wanted to make it more
attractive. It didn't bother me at all.




<span>Regards,



Alex
"



Trice evidently never participated in any NACA 11-man ballot event as
he once claimed. I guess he claimed his offline games were in Roberto
W.'s Games Database - but I was a member in Roberto's club and there
were no such games. Roberto also said none of the games were played by
Ed Trice and there wasn't any "NACA" event games in the Database.



So...the truth is obvious now - so the discussion should end.

Socrates: That was my point all along