Bernice: as long as there is money to be made, there is never a true ban.

Bernice: I believe it is the behavior of "accounts", not "people", what should be considered in terms of banning. If the person whose name cannot be mentioned here does not violate the BK rules under his new account, in my opinion there is no reason to ban him again.

Pedro Martínez: Then that means that anybody can get banned and come back as another name....I would like to see a poll done on how the "users" of BK think of that....not too good I don't think. But thanks for your input :)

Bernice: Well, sadly it is true.

Anyone can create as many accounts as they wish although it is strictly against stite policies. Although Fencer can not always determine if accounts belong to the same person. If the person chooses not to say anything to anyone, then no one would ever know.
In your case, if tthe person is openly admitting that they are banned then IMO they should be remoeved, BUT often it is not as easy as that

MadMonkey: The person is openly admitting who they are. Their excuse is "Fencer never told me I couldn't create another account"

Pedro Martínez: Sorry, but I don't get that. You as we all know it takes alot to get banned from the whole site. And as in this case, the person was banned in stages from much of the site and normal things.. Then to be allowed back on...

Is LJ back on here??

And it is a person behind each and every account. I do admit that in some cases it is hard to prove wrong doing and the level as such is not worth the effort to track down someone (such as the various multi nicks on this site) .... But a site ban use to mean a site ban.
In the past, such as the cave incident.. the people had to be given Fencer's ok to come back.

This is why people are a little perplexed by the current matter being discussed.

(V): Yes, LJ IS back on here and he does behave. You don't even know about him. Why would anyone want to ban him again? And the same applies to LMINY. As long as he does nothing wrong under his new account, as he claims not to intend to do anything like that, I see no reason to take any measures against him. Moreover, you can't expect Fencer to track and verify every account that might seem to belong to a person previously banned, can you?

Pedro Martínez: LJ is back... after how many years?? We are not asking Fencer to track every account, just to adhere to a reasonable banning period, which we all thought from past site bans (and big bans) was in place. Otherwise... what is the point of them happening? Everyone who's been banned might as well be let off being banned as of this moment if this account is allowed straight away after the extent of the ban and how it came into place!!

(V): What exactly is your problem with allowing accounts that cause no trouble at all to stay unbanned from this site? I mean if Jamie continues acting in the same manner as he did as LMINY, I am certain Fencer will ban him again. But from what I've read so far, he seems to have taken a lesson.

Pedro Martínez: Because of the lack of the time and the nature of the way of the banning.

You are missing the point of LJ, that person got banned for a long time, and by all accounts, the person in mind was as worse or close to, hence the bans.

(V): Because of the lack of the time and the nature of the way of the banning

Sorry, I have no idea what part of my previous post is this a reply to and how it is related to what I was getting at.

Pedro Martínez: Then I don't think you can be fully informed over matters. Just an opinion.

(V): I couldn't care less about your opinion on me being informed over "matters." I asked you a simple question, you have failed to answer, instead you come up with some gibberish.

Pedro Martínez: Well If I was really to say everything on a public board in relation to that matter, I'd get banned. As much is such it does not belong on public boards.

Other matters, are common knowledge. So, in respect of those items which do not belong on a public board I gave you "some gibberish."

And with respect if you knew this "some gibberish." you'd find it strange that this person is let back on... even stranger is the nature of the account formation after the fact that the creator is supposed to against this person and making promises over helping this person.

And Roberto Silva last paragraph has much substance. Many people are stopped from entering the UK over using false documents despite previously being denied visas. And can be liable to criminal prosecution as well as immediate deportation.

(V): And LJ was already back a long time ago.

Pedro Martínez: I fear I can´t take this comment very serious. An account can never behave itself it´s always the person behind that is responsible and that has to accept the consequences. That means (in my opinion) if somebody is banned, the person is banned and all his connected accounts (old and new, if traceable) for now and in the future, untill the ban is over.

Bernice: Rose explained it best.