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7. lestopado 2017, 18:17:24

playBunny

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O čem je toďten plk: Re: Thousands of games and years to play one round of a tourney

Hrqls: there are also people with busy lives who don't have hundreds or thousands of games going on

Sure but they don't therefore affect hundreds of tournaments and hundreds of other players.

I would further suggest that the number of busy lives who almost always play at the very last minute is minimal. As I pointed out to Roberto, the time controls are not as labelled. The 5-day time control is for 7, 8 or 9 days, not for 5. A game-hoarding slowcoach will often take the full 9 days when it occurs whereas a busy lifer will not.

Hercs: the players do (or should) know what they signed up for

Why "should" they? Did you nod knowingly above, when I said that a 5-day control is for 7 to 9 days? Maybe you did but do you think that it's common knowledge?

Hercs: for prize tournaments: the creator has chose the time limit for a specific reason

Lol. Do you really think that tournaments that can take decades have been given a thoughtful time control? I suspect that most tournament creators do it naively.

Besides, even when they are carefully chosen, the tournament can still proceed very slowly. I used to create tournaments with limited time controls called "Some like it fast". The idea was that they could be over within weeks and thus be suitable for fast players and Pawns. But a slow player can make those take months instead of weeks, perverting the intent, spoiling the enjoyment and degrading the membership of any Pawn who falls foul of them.

The reason that I reject "but they're playing within the rules" as a poor excuse is that it misses the point, which is that the rules are not fit for the purpose.

8. lestopado 2017, 10:03:02

Hrqls

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O čem je toďten plk: Re: Thousands of games and years to play one round of a tourney

pB: i agree that the time per move is a bit vague with the option of weekend days and vacation days added ... if you really want to be naughty you can even switch your weekend days while playing giving you 2 extra days once in a while ... just to frustrate your opponent :-)

about players knowing what they signed up for ... maybe they didnt know at first ... but i believe people learn from experience .. or at least i hope so ... and after some tournaments which are too slow for their taste they will think twice before joining a tournament which might be slow

due to a busy real life i am retiring on this site, and also on dailygammon, just finishing my running games/tournaments ... which migh take years, but i cant stand to lose on timeout :-)
i am only playing now on jijbent.nl (i think the english version is yourturnmyturn.com ?)
i think there the default for tournaments is 1 day per move, and a max 6 day pool
even then tournaments can take quite long

you are/were quite active on dailygammon as well .. what do you think of the timecontrols there ?

out of curiousity : about how many players are we talking who "abuse" the time control on this site ?

if i have an opponent who plays too slow according to my taste (rarely happens, but sometimes it does just before i go on vacation) ... i then send him a polite private message asking him if he could move in my games first

if an opponent sends me a message asking me to move faster, i then make sure i always move first in his/her games before i move in the others

about the speed rating per player: i suggested this years ago as well as i think its very useful and very informative .. but you have to take into account the different game types .. an average speed would make less sense that an average speed per game type