gogul:  Ok, now that I've finished that first article I can say that if true, it needs to be exposed because that goes too far.  I'd like to know the truth but I doubt we'll ever know.   There's always another side.  One thing that strikes me is that for a secretive operation there certainly are a great deal of known facts.  That's very odd for something that is supposed to be top secret.   

Just an aside but I'll bet if given the choice, those dudes would have preferred water boarding.