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15. záři 2012, 03:56:01  http://youtu.be/JA6vRC1xW_c
The Christian world didn't go about killing Jews and burning embassies over this short. So why should we give a crap about offending a bunch of 16th century nuts? Oh yeah, cuz they kill people when they get pissed. I get it. Give in to the terrorists. That's a great idea and sounds so manly! In an "art" museum there is a cross in a bottle of urine. It's allowed because of free speech. Sure there are complaints and protests, but no mass killings, rapes, and mob violence. Only with Muslims do you get that kind of response for some silly poorly done film. The guy looked more like an American Jesus than he did an Eastern Muslim male. Those crazies don't need a real reason to rape and kill. They will use anything. Our response must not be soft and fluffy. I don't care that they get offended. That's no reason for mob violence and we ought NOT to apologize to those who are our sworn enemies. Since when does America or Canada or Europe coddle to terrorist scum? The Muslims rape and murder and the left blames some guy with a camera. I blame the rapists and the murderers. It's like blaming the bank for the robbers taking their money. (because they had all that money in the bank!) 15. záři 2012, 12:08:08 O čem je toďten plk: Re: Only with Muslims do you get that kind of response for some silly poorly done film. Artful Dodger: It's not the film but the content. I'm sure you'd feel happy (as in the film) to have Jesus called a bastard. Would you appreciate under the USA's free speech laws a group of Muslims standing outside your church with signs saying... "JESUS HAS NO FATHER". .. "HE IS A BAS*@%*" But the Muslims seem to have respect enough to not do this. Maybe they don't want to start riots. 15. záři 2012, 18:43:41 O čem je toďten plk: Re: Only with Muslims do you get that kind of response for some silly poorly done film. (V): Muslims have respect? They don't do that in the USA because they wouldn't get away with it. But elsewhere in the world, they will hack off your head for little reason. And attacks on Christians are an everyday occurrence. The film was a bad idea and disrespectful. But it in no way warrants such a savage reaction. Christians would not react in such a way. And then there is this: 6/3/2012 Nigeria Bauchi 21 45 A Holy Warrior runs his car into a church service and detonates, taking out over twenty praying Christians. The responsible group later thanks Allah for the victory. 10/1/2001 Indonesia Tomata 3 0 Terrorists attack a Christian church, killing three women. 3/18/2012 Nigeria Suleja 0 5 A church is firebombed during a service. 3/15/2012 Nigeria Nayi 10 4 A pastor is among ten people hacked and shot to death when armed Muslims raid Christian homes around a church. 1/6/2012 Nigeria Adamawa 12 4 Islamists chanting 'Allah Akbar' barge into a church and massacre a dozen worshipers http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/ChristianAttacks.htm respect? I don't think so.. 15. záři 2012, 19:09:28 O čem je toďten plk: Re: Only with Muslims do you get that kind of response for some silly poorly done film.  Artful Dodger: ummm..Crusades? 15. záři 2012, 21:01:59 O čem je toďten plk: Re: Only with Muslims do you get that kind of response for some silly poorly done film. Bwild: The crusades were an entirely different thing. A sad part of the history of Christianity to be sure. But it's not the same thing. Christianity doesn't teach the things that went on in the crusades. But Islam does teach the things that goes on in Islam. AND it's happening now. You have some isolated nuts in Christianity but in Islam you have whole populations that have world domination as their goal. 15. záři 2012, 20:46:06 O čem je toďten plk: Re: hey don't do that in the USA because they wouldn't get away with it. But elsewhere in the world, they will hack off your head for little reason. Přetvořeny oževatelem Mort (15. záři 2012, 20:47:21) Artful Dodger: Exaggeration. No head hacking here. But.. we don't have the death penalty like in the US ... ... .. mmmmm "The film was a bad idea and disrespectful. But it in no way warrants such a savage reaction. Christians would not react in such a way. And then there is this:" Kevin Smith had death threats over the film Dogma, anti abortionists of Christian denomination killing is just a myth. You are telling me those anti abortionists were being respectful. ... You don't want me to talk about Northern Ireland do you? 15. záři 2012, 21:04:08 O čem je toďten plk: Re: hey don't do that in the USA because they wouldn't get away with it. But elsewhere in the world, they will hack off your head for little reason. (V): There is no exaggeration here. And we're not talking about death penalties nor are we talking about an isolated religious nut killing an abortionist. We're talking about whole populations that are hell bent on putting the world under the control of Islam. And they are making progress. In your country there is a huge problem with militant Islamist extremists. 15. záři 2012, 21:11:23 O čem je toďten plk: Re: We're talking about whole populations that are hell bent on putting the world under the control of Islam. Artful Dodger: I could say about the same with the US, regarding the CIA and foreign policy a few decades ago. We are talking about policies that have ended up in thousands upon thousands dying. But it wasn't the whole of the US population who wanted this... just the 1%.  15. záři 2012, 21:14:41 O čem je toďten plk: Re: We're talking about whole populations that are hell bent on putting the world under the control of Islam. (V): You could say a lot of things except for the fact that we're talking about something specific: The Muslim riots in light of some silly film. BTW, that film has been on YouTube for months. Interesting that the uprisings started on 911. But then there is no connection. They just collectively decided on that day to rape a US Ambassador and murder him and then set fire to the compound. These savages don't need an excuse to make war. That's part of their religion. The sooner people recognize it the better. 15. záři 2012, 21:24:14 O čem je toďten plk: Re: don't need an excuse to make war. That's part of their religion. Artful Dodger: Judaism recorded their wars as well.... including the massacres they did. Christianity was formalised into a religion based on a pogrom. And when our religion split.... "Interesting that the uprisings started on 911. But then there is no connection." 911 is just when Americans as a nation woke up to what had happened on their behalf. 15. záři 2012, 22:03:59 O čem je toďten plk: Re: We're talking about whole populations that are hell bent on putting the world under the control of Islam. Artful Dodger: [ BTW, that film has been on YouTube for months. ] I was curious about the timing, when the clip came out in relation to when the violence erupted. It's clear from everything I've heard and read that whoever put this out there fully intended to start something. If you know a particular group of people will react like mad dogs if you taunt them, then there is no excuse for inciting them. Taunting Christians doesn't result in this kind of reaction, but I have to wonder if self disicpline as taught by the Bible is something the Islamic religion teaches. When the Bible says the meek will inherit the earth, it's not saying passive people will be in charge... that's not what meek means. It means exercising the kind of self disicpline most good parents want to see their children develop. I think the person (or people) who funded and put that clip on youtube fully intended for it to have the sort of reaction that has now erupted. I read on this board someone saying $5 mil went into making it. Is that right? If so that tells me someone went to the trouble and expense of trying to set off a 'mad dog' reaction, fully knowing and intending for this to happen. 15. záři 2012, 22:22:11 O čem je toďten plk: Re: We're talking about whole populations that are hell bent on putting the world under the control of Islam. Iamon lyme: For the very reasons you cited, I personally would never do it. But I think it was done because it could be done. Even knowing that it would tick off the savages in Islam. It's the same with the burning of the Koran. We don't refrain from burning the Koran just because some crazies will riot, rape, and murder. That has to be on them. Those that respond badly to something they don't like are responsible for their own behavior. The Bible is burned as is the flag. It's a speech thing. I think it's dumb but they have the right to do it. It's not enough to kill over( waterboard yes....I'd water board the film maker - but keep in mind that Bill Maher made an anti-religious film and in it he also attacked Islam. We didn't hear squat about that! AND that same Bill Maher gave Obama 1 million dollars! Where's the media???  16. záři 2012, 15:36:26 O čem je toďten plk: Re: but I have to wonder if self disicpline as taught by the Bible is something the Islamic religion teaches.... that's not what meek means. It means exercising the kind of self disicpline most good parents want to see their children develop. Iamon lyme: Like the Christians and churches discipline regarding child abuse by church members? |
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