Vikings: so either i didnt understand or execute it properly or thats not it.

i read ur theory about opening 5 messages per page and opening last messages first ...it didnt work for me ...

what you mean?

02i: he used multiple pages

but i have no clue how luisifer got 10000 or lamer 3000 ...theres something else they are doing that is unknown to the rest of us.

whopper:ok, so I read it, play a few game moves, see more "new" messages, read them and get 6 every time I view a "new" message? seems fishy to me if someone hovers the discussion boards waiting for new messages... as many do waiting for an opponent to move...

...as long as there is atleast 1 new message ... not if i visit every time a new message appears , i get 6 points for every one but if i visit after 12 hours with 10 new messages , i still only get 6 points for all 10 instead of 60 points.

LionsLair: actually your theory was total opposite of whats true. someone like me who never reads has 2000 unread messages but after i open page i only get 6 points for all but if im a regualar , i get 6 points every time i `visit

LionsLair: You get 6 new points for reading this, since it's new. If someone else has replied as well since you last visited this board, you still get only 6 points.

02i:
..ok, so that threw that theory out the window, but I just got 6 points for reading vikings message, then went to main page, checked online opponents, saw a new message in my fav boards area(this one I am replying to, and got another 6 points... so as well as making available moves it looks like it pays to read every "new" message that hits the discussion boards... correct me if I'm wrong...

02i: You're right. Whatever Luisifer's trick was he was doing it with this board, which has only 20 messages! ;-)

ive had many unread messages as i dont regularly read messages but when i open page with 2000 new messages , i still only get 6 points for all on the page or next so i dont think that this flaw is present or if it is theres another trick to it and not just having lots of unead messages.

LionsLair: it's only a flaw if people set it up to be. otherwise they would only get 6 points no matter how many messages there are on the board.
by the way, I'm setting the over-under at 200,000

...nothing scientific here, but it seems all top action points winners at this point have gotten the bulk of their points from board points...
... the flaw with this is that someone that reads boards regularly is at a disadvantage, as they may only have say 10 "new" messages to read on the "brainking.com" board, and a user that never has read the board has 18,000+ "new" messages to read... thus creating a very large margin of points for such...
...is this a scam or cheating?... no, just a minor flaw in the tallying system for said "action Points"...
...I'm sure Fencer will fix this problem...
...just my two cents worth... as always, "happy Gaming!" >^.^<

BIG BAD WOLF: i agree - not something to worry about - fencer is not likely to let people abuse him like some are trying to do....

nightmagic: My actually reason for posted at all was to make sure others who were worried about a scam, or possible others worried about cheating (or wanting to cheat themselves) would probable most likely be fixed by Fencer the next time he is on - I never meant to get so worked up about it but just started to answer posts which made it seem like I'm the one worried about it, but like I said - I'm not worried about it since Fencer will probable clear it all up in due time.

BIG BAD WOLF: all can have my points,lol. i just popped in to see how it all was going with point grabbers,lol.and what there saying about how 2 and how not 2. going to be interesting to see people sleeping points. jobs lost cause they are collecting points.appointments missed cause they fell asleep getting points.lol

Vikings:

it's simple, set messages per page to minimum and set it to read oldest messages first, I had over 4,000 messages alone in flame pit, that would have added up to quite a lot

BIG BAD WOLF: Well, congrats on the successful move anyway!!!!

Czuch Czuckers: Yup, I should be moving more now that I'm just about done moving to my new house - but I'm sure I will not be near the top... I still don't have that much free time.

It will be interesting to watch BBW play more moves per day than he has since he tried for the top of the most moves per day average!

Luisifer: LOL, BBW is very competative, and he is likely upset that he didnt find it first, and the fact that he still doesnt know....

Luisifer: Lol. We say "get out of bed on the wrong side". ;-) I reckon you've sounded so serious that BBW hasn't realised that you're having fun with this trick that you've found. ;o) 10,000 points?!! Wow, that's a lot of "reading", lolol.

BIG BAD WOLF: did you wake up by left leg? :)) take it easy

Luisifer: You can try to justfy it all you want, but to purposly do something to gain more point, even though it is not written or programmed correctly to stop you from doing so is unfair to everyone else who plays how this system is suppose to be played. I'm sure Fencer will take care of the issue, and hopefully either remove all points and/or ban people from the point system if he feels that is needed.

BIG BAD WOLF: only couple of days you cant stop the spam

BIG BAD WOLF: When You look to rules, You will see that you recieve more points when You will read than when You will play....
So ... I am reading for recieve more points. :-)

Hey, I just found something new - in the fellowships, you now have the option to check or uncheck "Receive group messages from the Big Boss"

This is great! I've quit fellowships where the BIG BOSS would send too many messages for my taste.

hum... I wonder how long that option was there.....

Luisifer: reading the boards to read post is fine, but it sounds like you are reading post to purposly gain more points. See, there is a difference.

BIG BAD WOLF: What is bad on the reading (which i am doing)? :)
points unpoints ... i read ... when someone fix this way of reading (and summing the points) it'll be fixed (not hidden for someone else)
(it's main thing of betatesting :) )

whopper: so, they will :) and jep, i found :-)

Luisifer: Your points will be gone when you wake up, so I hope you found something interesting to read.

Luisifer: To purposly do something which was not intended, even if it is not written that you can not do it is still wrong any way you look at it - it's unfair to everyone else that plays how the system was set up to work.

BIG BAD WOLF: I (use only one bug, but it isnt main thing) only fill the conditions - reading. so ... I read and read ...
no wrong thing on it :)

BIG BAD WOLF: oh I am sure he will, but now I am trying to figure out how to do it, not to gain an advantage, but because that sort of thing bugs me until I find the answer!

Goonerg: Well hopefully Fencer will fix the bugs, and remove any users who goes around the system - leave the game to the players who play how it is suppose to be played.

Luisifer: no! he must not have!!

:))) i will go sleep soon :)
but i see that Fencer hadn't beta testing of new features ;)))

by the time Fencer wakes up, he will have 1,000,000,000 points!!!!
(insert Dr. Evil laugh here)

Luisifer: Don't tell them. Then Fencer will have to remove their points too.

BOOOOOO!!!!! :P

Goonerg: :)) I dont tell the "secret" :) it's easy to find it :) and i think that it will not work soon (as soon as Fencer wake up) :))

LOL Tell us!!!!!

:)

now he is writting a message to one of his buddies telling of the great scam!

Goonerg: I tried that and following threads and all users posts, but those didnt work for me....

Luisifer: LOL tell us the secret!

go through all the pages maybe?

Goonerg: If you could somehow count every message instead of all new counting as one?

I dont cheat, i only read *1*

Czuch Czuckers: has to be a scam there are not enough messasges to read to get that many points!!