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2. Luglio 2004, 13:29:51
Caissus 
Argomento: 9975 registered players
...at the moment! What gets the ten-thousandth player? A bottle sparkling wine? :-)

2. Luglio 2004, 11:36:51
Jason 
Argomento: Re: pics:(
we wil BEAR that in mind bernice

2. Luglio 2004, 10:52:58
MadMonkey 
Im fine thanks Cindy (and others that missed me lol), just VERY tired (and thats because of work sadly, not pleasure LOL)

2. Luglio 2004, 10:08:27
Bernice 
Argomento: pics:(
I have had some negative feedback to my eye...( I think it makes people feel like im really watching) roflmbo

well now im setting my dog onto you :)

2. Luglio 2004, 09:43:40
DeaD man WalkiN 
Argomento: Re: I think this warrants investigation
GothicInventor I don't know if u r. Why do u have something that u want to tell us.
I just don't see the need to cheat over a game.
:o{P

2. Luglio 2004, 09:43:25
Bernice 
Argomento: Re: I think this warrants investigation
GI :) about 6 months ago or there abouts I brought this same thing up with a person that is know to us all, every game he had won on default...the default being the other side conceded defeat.

I was told that as he was in control of the game it was natural for the other side to resign.

I resign games of backgammon but only when the other side has all his within striking distance of home:(...it dont do me much good tho LOLOL

But for some one clever enough to have multiple nics (and there are a lot)they can show themselves as a super-power when in fact they are like a grain of sand in a big desert.

2. Luglio 2004, 09:38:51
Bernice 
Argomento: not that it matters, to me at least
but my drawn games was something like 42..46..or something (which in itself is a phurphy-because of the big break down in Sept2003)...hehehe it is now 1...

Im not overly BKR orientated like some but it makes you wonder how TRUE are the other results...i lose probably 66% to 75% of my games so the rest look about right, but has anyone else noticed their games numbers have changed....
OH and before the crash last year I had won 2 tournaments, but I cant remember nor do I care, so that isnt a problem here...
Just in case this is a glitch (as opposed to a bug)

2. Luglio 2004, 08:58:15
Grim Reaper 
Argomento: Re: I think this warrants investigation
Am I under suspicion too then MrLoupCity?

:)

2. Luglio 2004, 08:41:46
DeaD man WalkiN 
Argomento: Re: I think this warrants investigation
CurbYourEnthus record in Backgammon Race 25-0-0 and all againest the same person. Like LongJohn said game forfeited after 3 or 4 moves. I see the bkr is only 1300 but I think that both people sould be put in that bad corner we have, time out for like a week or so for tring to pull trickes on us in here. TYVM for ur time.
:o{P

2. Luglio 2004, 08:40:57
red dragon 
Trevor/Cindy: MadMonkey's fine. He's been working hard.

2. Luglio 2004, 07:34:38
rod03801 
Argomento: Add a note
Modificato da rod03801 (2. Luglio 2004, 07:35:57)
I thought of one other thing that I dont remember seeing listed in changes.
The way of adding notes to yourself in games has changed.. No more text box automatically there. It's now a link, to bring up the text box..

Now if we could only get the note to show up at the top of the game on your next turn..
:-D

2. Luglio 2004, 05:19:09
CindyInTN 
Is MadMonkey ok? Haven't seen him in a long time....

2. Luglio 2004, 02:25:15
Artful Dodger 
Argomento: Looks like cheating to me too
a bit obvious it seems....zap both accounts

2. Luglio 2004, 02:15:10
LongJohn 
Argomento: I think this warrants investigation
CurbYourEnthus rates #7 on the backgammon bkr. Not too bad unless you dig a little deeper and notice a few things.

1. Backgammon Race results all against gamer07 and in every game, gamer07 resigned after just enough moves to warrant bkr calculation.

2. Backgammon 2004 and Backgammon 2003 and Backgammon 2002 obviously shows that CurbYourEnthus is doing something just a teeny weeny bit naughty to aid his BKR.

Fencer, I wonder if this obvious cheating should cause resetting of BKR or maybe it is just pure chance that gamer07 had to resign every game after 4 moves due to an impossible situation.

I would be interested in anyone elses interpretation on this situation.

2. Luglio 2004, 01:44:27
LongJohn 
better than an old beat up cop car?

2. Luglio 2004, 00:50:14
SunFire 
Argomento: Re:
Thanks, my 2002 SunfireGT looks alot better.

2. Luglio 2004, 00:48:34
LongJohn 
ya look like a Blues Brother dude.
I love that movie

2. Luglio 2004, 00:46:07
SunFire 
Argomento: Photos
Yes its great to see all the photos, Now you can see how doofy looking I am hehehe!

1. Luglio 2004, 22:44:11
ScarletRose 
Argomento: Hello Everyone!!
Just stopping in to say Thanks to Fencer and everyone else for a site well done.. Thanks to all your hard work.. This is so kewl seeing faces with the players..

1. Luglio 2004, 21:16:21
rod03801 
Argomento: ImUpChucking..
Using WebTV, you will only have to log back in if you 1) log out, or 2) Power off WebTV completely, (or switch webtv accounts).
Simply using "Hang up", or allowing it to time out after the 10 minutes keeps you always logged in here.
Sort of an advantage, yes..

1. Luglio 2004, 20:10:38
Brian1971 
Argomento: Re: US Chess Federation Formula
To me it seems very similar. Like I said the formula is modified for brainking. I have played lots of backgammon games. I am over 2200. I play games with people 2000 or higher as rule. My game fluxuations are generally 8 points up or down depending on the result. That is similar to the chess formula. However like I said Fencer could answer this issue better than I can. He knows the modifications to the formula.

1. Luglio 2004, 20:09:42
Andersp 
Ok Brian..no more comments :)

1. Luglio 2004, 20:01:57
BuilderQ 
Argomento: US Chess Federation Formula
Modified beyond recognition. Try this link, if it works: US Chess Federation Formula

1. Luglio 2004, 19:56:57
Brian1971 
Argomento: BuilderQ
Like I said the formula was modified when Brainking adopted it for its rating system. I am sure Fencer could explain it better than me. Of course liek I said I play more for fun and less for rating.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:55:02
Brian1971 
Argomento: andersp
Sure i guess there could be a problem. there will always be some who will not like it. But that is their problem and not yours. Everyone who is on a team in a fellowship should have an opportunity to play. If it were me I would let those who signed up first get the chance. If someone wanted to play but was too late in signing up then too bad. However then I would say whomever played in one tournament should give someone else who didnt play a chance in the next one. Or possibly do a blind draw and rotate the team each tournament so everyone would get a chance that wants one.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:51:49
BuilderQ 
Brian1971: If this site really used the US Chess Federation formula, my rating would always be raised by less than 16 points for winning against a lower rated player.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:49:46
Andersp 
Brian. Dont you think there can be a problem if someone with lower "rating" is picked to a team?

1. Luglio 2004, 19:45:17
Stevie 
Argomento: woooohooooo
My 6th game just completed, and its put me on there now :o)

1. Luglio 2004, 19:45:13
Brian1971 
Argomento: backoff
Then there may be a bug. That would be Fencer's department.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:43:51
Brian1971 
Argomento: andersp
I would agree with you about the rating fomula but like I said I dont worry too much about it. I figure if I win more than I lose, it will be a good number, if I lose more than I win, then it will be a low number. As far as fellowship teams, depending on the fellowship, you may be able to play team tournaments for your fellowship, if it is an open sign up offered for tournament. Meaning that the captains or Big Boss says first come, first serve despite rating. So your point of BKR meaning more, may not always apply. However yes it might mean something to some fellowship captains or bosses.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:43:32
Backoff 
But there's two people on there so there IS one.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:40:13
Brian1971 
Argomento: Stevie
Must be a bug or like I said before, since it is a new game, a table hasnt been established yet.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:37:17
Stevie 
Argomento: Brian
I am not on all rated table either, nor is backoff

1. Luglio 2004, 19:35:59
Andersp 
I have never cared about rating but since the rating decides who will be picked to the fellowship teams i think it will be more important now.
Must say that the formula is very weird if you lose 46 BKR if you lose to a player with a lot higher rating and only -13 if you lose to a player with lower rating. Should be opposite.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:32:31
Brian1971 
Stevie: Of course you wont be on the established table until 25 rated games are completed. However check the table with all rated players.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:31:15
Brian1971 
Stevie: It is possible since it is a new game.

BuilderQ: It is the US Chess Federation formula. However it is modified for BrainKing. For instance if you beat a significantly weaker opponent you gain little or no BKR. If the formula was exactly applied you would lose points in this example. So if you can access the US Chess Federation Formula for calculating a rating number than you can figure it out.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:29:52
Stevie 
ooops found it now, but me not on it

1. Luglio 2004, 19:29:44
Backoff 
lol tell me about. My BKR is 2500 in Amazons lol. Till BBW gets done with me :(

1. Luglio 2004, 19:27:42
Stevie 
Argomento: Is there not a ratings table for Amazons?
I have a bkr but no rating and cant find it :o(

1. Luglio 2004, 19:26:01
BuilderQ 
"...Impossible to compare..." Not if I knew the rating formula.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:23:08
Brian1971 
Argomento: ratings
First off I play for fun and ratings second. However remember the formula is a complicated one. There are a variety of factors based on both you and your opponent. Number of games played, quality of oppostion, wins-loss-draw record is taken into account as well as your current opponent that you beat or lost to. It is impossible to compare why you gained or lost more points than your opponent or gained or lost less points than your opponent. Their game record is going to be different than yours based their own record and game history and opponent history. I look at ratings as an afterthought as I use it to find games against opposition in the same range as me or higher. However if you play for the fun of it the rating number means very little.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:19:12
Fencer 
Because the formula works in this way.

1. Luglio 2004, 19:15:37
BuilderQ 
While we are discussing ratings, consider this:
From: Jokl
Date and time: 1. July 2004, 07:47:16
Subject: Your opponent resigned the game (Chess) (show game)

You are the winner.

BuilderQ: old BKR = 1886, new BKR = 1910 (+24)
Jokl: old BKR = 1840, new BKR = 1813 (-27)

Game type: Chess

Why did I get less than my opponent lost, especially seeing as I had played LESS chess games in total?

1. Luglio 2004, 19:00:50
LongJohn 
I agree that it is a little weird but I delete all mine and have no records.

1. Luglio 2004, 18:54:25
Andersp 
Antje...i compared..you lost to a player who had 369 BKR HIGHER than you and you lost -46 BKR.
I just lost to a player who had 165 LOWER than me ..and i only lost -13 BKR.
cant be right?

1. Luglio 2004, 17:39:12
IndiagonalJones 
I will support this motion about the Blue edge for loop from Christine and bwildman. Thanks!

1. Luglio 2004, 17:32:41
Antje 
Modificato da Antje (1. Luglio 2004, 17:33:12)
i have a question about the BKR. (let me preface this by saying im not whining and usually dont care about my rating) Im losing a whole lot of points each time i lose, i was up over 2000, now im in 1500. ive been looking at the points im winning/losing, when i lose i lose i lose 40 some points, and even now when im 1600 and my opponent is 1900, i still lose 40 some points, i dont recall the difference being that dramatic before. am i just now more aware of it, or has something changed?

so if the luck of the dice is the usual decider, i need to win 2 to equal the loss of one game, and im dropping 40 points with each loss, ill be hitting zero before too long.

has anyone else noticed this?

*edited for a typo or two

1. Luglio 2004, 15:30:13
Fencer 
Of course.

1. Luglio 2004, 15:10:01
bwildman 
Argomento: Re: loop chess
it does help distinguish the game.

1. Luglio 2004, 15:07:24
Christine 
Argomento: loop chess
Fencer, would it be possible to get the blue edge around the loop chess board again?

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