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Argomento: Re:Everytime there's a mass killing the phony politicians try to dismantle the 2nd amendment. It's not gonna happen.
(V): It's mostly the hype from the left that's driving the gun debate. The gun lobby is simply answering the critics. There are bigger problems that the US is facing and those problems are being ignored. It's all political. The politicians don't care about dead kids. Example: Chicago and Detroit.
How many people are YOU willing to let die so you don't violate your expressed values?
And do any of you on the left see the conflict in opposing waterboarding (Obama opposes it) BUT favoring killing suspected terrorists without a trial of any kind? (Obama supports killing suspected terrorists but not waterboarding them)
So lets see if I have this straight: Waterboarding is bad. Killing (it's an assination) is good.
Argomento: Obama has said that "if it saves one child, it will be worth the effort"
This was in a gun control speech. But is Obama REALLY concerned about the life of EVEN ONE child?
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Nowhere does State Sen. Barack Obama's greatest achievement in Springfield get attention these days. But he made it his business to take a stand on Illinois' Infant Born-Alive Protection Act. On many controversial matters, he voted "Present," but on this one bill, he led the effort to kill the measure.
That bill would have required protection for a child born alive following an unsuccessful attempt to kill it through abortion. The bill was intended to protect newborns like those cradled and comforted by Chicago nurse Jill Stanek. Nurse Stanek was horrified to learn that some premature infants born alive had been placed in a dirty laundry closet to gasp out their young lives. Jill Stanek rocked them and sang to these poor little ones as their young lives ebbed away.
Now, when State Sen. Obama killed that measure, it was a most doubtful constitutional matter. The Fourteenth Amendment was passed in 1868, shortly after President Lincoln had succeeded in freeing the slaves through his Emancipation Proclamation, and just three years after the Thirteenth Amendment formally abolished slavery throughout America.
Why would the Fourteenth Amendment be necessary? Because some states were still denying "the equal protection of the laws" to freedmen and women. This amendment stated that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
Barack Obama was a teacher of constitutional law at the University of Chicago. Surely, he had read the text of one of the most important of Civil War Reconstruction Amendments.
And yet, he voted to deny equal protection of the law to infants born in the United States.
He led the fight to strip the citizenship rights of these children born in Illinois.
So, for Barack Obama, abortion through the entire nine months of pregnancy is not enough. The lives of children already born must be pursued. The license of abortion he defends would extend to the right to a dead child.
(V): Everytime there's a mass killing the phony politicians try to dismantle the 2nd amendment. It's not gonna happen.
In Japan: At 10:15 that morning, 37-year-old former janitor Mamoru Takuma entered the school armed with a kitchen knife and began stabbing numerous school children and teachers. He killed eight children, mostly between the ages of seven and eight, and seriously wounded thirteen other children and two teachers.
Akihabara massacre: At 12:33 p.m. JST, a man hit a crowd with a truck, eventually killing three people and injuring two; he then stabbed at least 12 people using a dagger (initially reported as a survival knife[1]), killing four people and injuring eight.
Anyone can search the internet and find numerous examples of mass murders with weapons like knives, cars, trucks, axes, - you name it- !
True that a gun is easier to kill with. But so what? That's NOT the argument being put forth.
BTW, people who have been arguing FOR gun control, they have been responsible for the HUGE SURGE in gun sales across the US. More guns are being bought and sold than ever before. Not exactly what the left was hoping for. If they keep this up, more people will own guns than ever in the history of the US. People who have never shot a gun are buying one. And bullets are being sold like crazy. All thanks to the hype from the left.
So instead of limiting gun ownership the left has managed to create a situation where people are buying more guns than ever before. When they talk about banning a certain semi-automatic, that particular gun experiences record sales! Way to go lefties!!!!
And like I said, I don't own a gun. But I can knock you over with a deadly fart from ten feet.
Iamon lyme: Japan has more suicides than the US and they have no gun laws. So it's not about guns anyway. Obama claims it's about "the kids" and yet he never speaks up about the hundreds that die in crime ridden DEMOCRATIC run districts. Detroit was destroyed by the liberals. Moderate liberals are ok but the far left are enemies of all that is decent. I'd even go further and say that the far left are traitors to America.
As for the Right, MANY on the right, especially those politicians that are long-timers, are just as bad as those on the far left. They are incompetent buffoons and need to be first water-boarded, and then put in stocks.
Naked.
(And by the Right I don't mean ANY in the Tea Party)
U.S. gun policies are most often compared to that of the United Kingdom's. Following the massacre at Dunblane, the UK enacted a near universal gun ban in 1998. Today the majority of police officers are not allowed to carry a firearm even while on duty, and even the UK Olympic pistol team must fly to Switzerland to practice. All the same, the most recent government statistics show gun crimes in England and Wales have gone from 5,209 in 1998 to 9,865 in 2012 -- an increase of 89 per cent.
Argomento: Re: It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed.
Argomento: Re: It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed.
(V): haha that would be fun. Wake me up in 100 years. I'd be like a cave man.
Argomento: Re: It seems to me that a well built woman vrs a well built woman colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight woman vrs a light weight woman at the same speed.
Iamon lyme: I gotta go. I have to take out the trash, do the dishes, and vacuum. After I'm finished with that I'll ask the boss, er my wife if there's anything else I have to do. Then I'll be back.
Argomento: Re: It seems to me that a well built woman vrs a well built woman colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight woman vrs a light weight woman at the same speed.
Iamon lyme: Yeah, I've tried. I even tried to trade her in for an updated model but that didn't work out too well for me. I sang soprano for weeks! Fortunately I'm losing my hearing and I have a strong "ignore" feature built into my brain.
Argomento: Re: It seems to me that a well built ipad vrs a well built ipad colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight ipad vrs a light weight ipad at the same speed.
Argomento: Re: It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed.
(V): But you need weight for safety as well. Frankly I prefer telephoning but I can't get it to work for me. It worked for Spock. Actually, there is a science behind that idea and as I understand it, it's theoretically possible. But I'll be dead before it's perfected.
Iamon lyme: They use this method in many abortions and Obama approves it. He doesn't want kids shot (unless they are black and from Chicago) but is ok with babies in the womb having their arms and legs sucked off (especially if they are black and from Chicago).
Argomento: Re: BUT we all know that lighter cars contribute to more traffic deaths (and child deaths).
(V): It seems to me that a well built car vrs a well built car colliding at 60 mph would be much safer than a light weight car vrs a light weight car at the same speed. I'd put my money on surviving in the heavier car and the two lightweight autos all would likely be killed. Just a guess. I'll have to google it. Or bing it.
Argomento: Re: true it's easier with a gun. But Japan has higher sucked rate without guns so guns aren't the problem.
(V): Sucked?? hahaha That cracks me up. I was using my ipad and it auto corrected my spelling. I never noticed it. I'll have to try to write suicide again tonight on the ipad and see how that happened.
Argomento: Re: They are not legal for cops to use either.
Bwild: Exactly. The politicians love to jump on tragedies and use them for political gain. Kids die every day in Chicago but they've already got the black vote so who cares? Notice how some of the worst cities for crime are run by Democrats? See Detroit and Chicago-
Argomento: Re: He appears to be talking about an eternal universe in which the unmoved mover is able to overcome the problem of an infinite number of past events.
Iamon lyme: So the end of winter and an early spring is determined by some cowardly little rodent who cries at the sight of his own shadow? I say we cook the little bugger and make some burgers!
Today Obama was in Minnesota claiming that if we can save "only one child" it will be worth the effort (to pass more gun restrictions).
Seriously, this guy is a full on liar. He doesn't gives a rat's rump about saving any "child."
He favors partial birth abortion. That's where you take a needle, poke a hole in the back of the skull of a "child" (nearly born child and fully viable) and then insert a tube, suck out the kid's brains.
And he opposes the "Born Alive" legislation (that's where if an abortion fails and the child lives, the child can be left to die (and they are left to die) on the table or in some back room). Obama opposed any efforts to secure the now outside the womb and fully born human baby.
Obama favors car manufactures making lighter cars (to save on fuel). BUT we all know that lighter cars contribute to more traffic deaths (and child deaths).
So much for that two faced lying sack of donkey poo giving a rip about saving "even one child." He couldn't care less if a child dies. It's all political BS from him and his kind. Scum bag.
Universal Eyes: We have all kinds of laws here depending on the State and local ordinances. But in some States open carry rules the day. I don't carry a gun but I am armed (I have two of them at the moment AND they are deadly).
Iamon lyme: The police response time in some parts around here is over 15 minutes. That's why most of my rural friends are packing. Locked and loaded. (fully loaded and their guns are full of bullets too!)
Argomento: Re: He appears to be talking about an eternal universe in which the unmoved mover is able to overcome the problem of an infinite number of past events.
Iamon lyme: Well according to the gopher or muskrat or what ever that creature that sees its shadow is called, we're due for some local global warming very soon. And frankly, I can't wait. But I'll have to wait. So I guess I can wait. So why did I say I can't? I don't know. I need a shrink I think!