Iamon lyme: re Sometimes I wonder the same about atheism believers. If it weren't for us, there would be no atheists."

That's like saying.I wouldn't love Chinese food if it didn't exist.........I'm not into modern art, so it does not occupy my thoughts, it's not in my solar system, dig?

Artful Dodger: Why are God believers so consumed with atheism?

Artful Dodger: interesting,that is what I said about them originally

Ephesians 6:5-9

5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.

9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him

Iamon lyme: Describe for me your rebirth.Did a coconut drop on your head? was it an epiphany that roused you from sleep in the wee hours causing you to sit upright in bed in a cold sweat?

Artful Dodger: Personally speaking,I think you give as good as you get , no reason to play the victim

Iamon lyme: I'm partial to chicken, but whatever floats yer boat

Iamon lyme: There is a utube video called Jungle Burger.A bunch of marching penises.....and it kinda regresses from there LOL

Artful Dodger: you drive a cab?

Iamon lyme: As long as you're happy and nobody gets hurt , go nuts

Iamon lyme: Don't be so hard on yourself

Iamon lyme: I'm not a believer in the "classic" God figure.I also don't feel that if "God" isn't your cuppa tea in regards to worship, a substitute must be found

Iamon lyme: When have you ever seen a tool that resembles a human being? or is your statement too eclectic for my simple mind

(V):

(V): who?

Übergeek 바둑이: If the Republicans aren't careful, they may attack themselves for becoming an unstable theocracy, kinda ironic

rod03801: I suppose it is noble standing up for what you believe in regardless of electability.I just wonder what moderate Republicans are thinking these days

rod03801: So it was rejected on the grounds of legallity, not premis

According to new rules just adopted by the Laurens County GOP, no candidate will wind up on the primary ballot who hasn't passed a purity test.

Among the new requirements to run as a Republican in this county in the June 12 legislative primary, according to The Clinton Chronicle, are that aspiring candidates must have abstained from sex before marriage.

And once they ace THAT test, they must take a pledge that "You cannot now, from the moment you sign this pledge, look at pornography."

Other required Republican pledges include:

"You must oppose abortion, in any circumstances.
"You must uphold the right to have guns, all kinds of guns.

"You must endorse the idea of a balanced state and federal budget, whatever it takes, even if your primary responsibility is to be sure the county budget is balanced.

"You must be faithful to your spouse. Your spouse cannot be a person of the same gender, and you are not allowed to favor any government action that would allow for civil unions of people of the same sex.

"You must have:

"A compassionate and moral approach to Teen Pregnancy;

"A commitment to Peace Through Strength in Foreign Policy; and

"A high regard for Unites States Sovereignty."

Artful Dodger: Santorum had Michigan wrapped up, until he opened his mouth the last week.If he had stayed on the economy and not social issues he had it in the bag.It will be close,but he ticked off enough people to probably let Mitt win it.The debate should be interesting

Much like a boxing match, the bigger the hype, the less exciting they seem to be.One thing is certain though, Newt needs a very strong showing or he is toast.If only Newt would drop out,Santorum would gain more than enough to snuff Mitt

Artful Dodger: ". Now you can go back to being quiet"

If by quiet, you mean not wasting my time banging my head on this board trying to counter your republican talking points.I will gladly

Artful Dodger: re:"I have a great book, I'll look up the title later, where the author argues the existence of God based on mathematical truths. I don't understand the book fully but that is a topic that deserves exploration. I'm not doing the premise of the book justice so I'll dig it up and you can read some reviews etc if that interests you.

Not being a huge fan of the deeper math concepts (because it's not a skill I possess) I still know enough to be fascinated with just how precise math can work and solve deep mysteries. I don't for a minute think we as a human species invented math but only that we developed a language (mathematical equations) to understand what already existed"

So you're skeptical of science, unless it fits your beliefs

(V): When Fox News distances themselves from you (as they did Beck) you know you're in la la land

Artful Dodger: You "published an article questioning the global-warming orthodoxy"

and Al Gore took notice?

Artful Dodger: Would you say that if you were a member of public service employee unions?

Artful Dodger: You're like a puppy who never tires of chewing on a slipper til next time

Artful Dodger: Leno doesn't read cue cards?

I said nobody? don't be silly, family and friends count

Artful Dodger: you want to get into a philosophical discussion regarding art? I posed the question to you anyway, you had one unknown and a cue card reader.The general public is the only indicator of what sells, and the conservative stand ups are not very high on the list.My personal fave was not filling arenas at any point in NA,but my question was not based on personal faves, that's an entirely diff beast

Artful Dodger: I was speaking of stand up comics, I expanded the list to make it easier for you.I gave my opinion as to my fave,who I consider the best.I think if you check earnings for stand up comics you will get a better indication of the public opinion

Vikings: 7 of them do stand up, and Bono and Neilson are sadly dead.I love Leary, not sure he's conservative though........Mel Gibson is a stand up comic? to some I guess

Artful Dodger: Of course it's opinion, mine and many others

Artful Dodger: He is considered the best by his peers, he was a comic's comic.Ahead of his time in NA, but loved in GB

(V): My bro is an FI freak,I have trouble keeping track of who is in the lead.Bill Hicks , best stand up comic who ever lived

(V): the vid was 59 minutes , a tad longer than I budget for research

(V): You can't control stupid, you can only stand back in awe.Take my 12 herbs and spices please!

(V): If only union leaders focused on safety more than greed

(V): I think Sean Hannity's editing team worked on that clip

Artful Dodger: Funny is funny, the stand up comics you have mentioned would be lucky to be recognised by their parents, let alone the general public

Artful Dodger: Most likely cuz you are at a loss for an answer

I'm sure the topic would be considered relevant if you had your usual oodles of info to share

Artful Dodger: Here's some help, though they aren't stand up :Patricia Heaton, Kelsey Grammer.

Artful Dodger: Huh? I would pay to watch Beck cuz he's funny

Artful Dodger: making a living? or popular?
name someone other than a cue card reader,I will eliminate Letterman

(V): Beck works, I would buy a ticket

Artful Dodger: Ahhh, so he makes his money playing right wing conventions, not from the general public.Leno? now you're dredging the sea bottom.If you can't come up with one popular stand up right wing comic, yikes, that says it all

Artful Dodger: I doubt he would even be noticed in public, who is he?

Artful Dodger: "There are plenty of right-wing comics making a living with comedy"

name one

The common reason stated, is that conservatives tend to have issue laughing at themselves, liberals don't have the same issues with self depricating humor

Artful Dodger: Mine, and everyone elses apparently.Can you name a successful right wing comic? and if you mention Dennis Miller, his career has tanked in the stand up forum

Artful Dodger: Now I know why there are so few popular conservative comics

Artful Dodger: You forgot mentioning them being ruled by fundamentalist Christians